Difference between revisions of "Talk:Main Page"

Revision as of 22:24, 7 March 2007

copyright

what is the copyrigt policy for contributions to this wiki. pd, gfdl, creative commons??? I think pd would be the best.

Well, NSwiki:Copyrights doesn't exist yet, but NSwiki:Policy says NSwiki is licenced under the GFDL. -- Crimmer 14:29, 5 Oct 2004 (GMT)

Oh, and please sign when leaving notes on talk pages. You can do this by inserting ~~~ (3 tildes) at the end of your message, or if you want to include a timestamp, ~~~~ (4 tildes). -- Crimmer 14:46, 5 Oct 2004 (GMT)

What Crimmer said. However, I'm not planning on running around and enforcing my GFDL rights - basically, steal what you want, as long as you acknowledge NSwiki. --Goobergunchia 19:03, 5 Oct 2004 (GMT)

Added link to Nation and Region templates

This seemed to be a fairly important new-user item, so I thought it belonged on the main page. I still have to delve to find the InfoBox links on the help pages. It needs to be a one-click wonder. -- Frisbeeteria 03:05, 6 Oct 2004 (GMT)

Put the New User section in its own table -- Frisbeeteria 03:39, 6 Oct 2004 (GMT)

iLoad

So vhat is the deal vith zee upload, eh? Will we ever be allowed to upload things to the Wiki to store here, or is it just one of those things that we're never going to get for it's too complicated, uses too much space or cost too much money, eh? Just curious. Fodian Federa 21:08, 20 Oct 2004 (GMT)

Uploading doesn't work because the PHP that NSwiki is running on is in safe mode - I can't fix it, although I may ask my ISP to. --Goobergunch|? 22:18, 20 Oct 2004 (GMT)

Completely irrelevant

Just wanted to make sure that everyone knew that today, 25 October 2004, according to the little main page counter, NSwiki officially had 1337! pages. :) Iansisle 23:35, 25 Oct 2004 (GMT)

Slight Typo

In the "tip of the day" cell, the URL pointing to the Recent Pages section of the wiki has an underscore (ala recent_changes) rather than it being all one word (recentchanges). This results in a broken URL that points to an invalid page. Since I am not of sufficient privilages to edit the main page, I thought I'd point it out here. --The Mindset 20:04, 28 Nov 2004 (GMT)

Since the content is actually linked to Template:totd, you do actually have the right to edit that ... but I'll grab it. Thanks. → Fris Θtalk 20:11, 28 Nov 2004 (GMT)

A Bit Redundant?

I'm just curious as to why the Main Page is also the featured page on the Main Page? It seems a bit redundant, as the "featured article" just repeats information that can be seen by looking directly to the right. Is this a blunder or was it supposed to happen like that? Just curious. Khen 13:08, 1 Apr 2005 (GMT)

Pardon, directly below, not to the right. Khen 13:11, 1 Apr 2005 (GMT)

Now that it has finished, I can safely say, April fools! Rechze • (talk) 23:26, 1 Apr 2005 (GMT)

New Tip of the Day

Maybe it's time for a change? I was particularly thinking NSwiki:Tip_of_the_day_archive#Sneak_preview might be a good reminder.Gruen2alk 23:03, 26 October 2005 (GMT)

Talk:Main_Page put on protection indefinitely

In order to put an end to the linkspamming on this page by certain IPs, I've put this page on protect status. I've been thinking - it's definitely possible to have the discussion for the Main Page somewhere else so that it's not linkspammed, and so that this page is not linkspammed after we leave it - this seems to be the only page they're attacking anyway. If you have any comments/questions about the protection of this page, don't hesitate to message one of the sysops. --Pacitalkia 05:39, 21 November 2005 (GMT)

I've moved it to this new title and unprotected it in an attempt to avert vandalism. It's important that we keep discussion of our main page open, though, because it's the front door of NSwiki. Perhaps we could impose an automatic indefinite block on those who linkspam this page if linkspamming starts up again? → Ceo \ squawk 04:20, 4 February 2006 (GMT)

Alas, I'm not so sure it's working (and indeed it makes sense that it wouldn't be, as going to Talk:Main Page just redirects you straight here anyway where vandalism can then proceed). I'm really not so sure what would work, though... —Bedistan 22:12, 14 June 2006 (GMT)

Your right about the move not helping. So I moved it back. If only it was posible to fo a semiprotect on this wiki, hats what I think should be done here. --swilatia 05:38, 29 June 2006 (GMT)

Move the pagecount up?

I believe it would be a good idea to move the amount of articles from the bottom of the page to the top (moving it into the "we are building an open-content encyclopedia" part. what do you think of this idea? --swilatia 01:23, 5 March 2006 (GMT)

Personally, I think that entire section would look better on the top of the page, under the welcome paragraph. Here, I've made a mockup of what might be good. My only concern is that it may make the top of the page have too much information. Dymero 07:30, 5 March 2006 (GMT)

Anyone? Bueller? :P --Dymero 07:25, 7 March 2006 (GMT)

Dymero's version looks OK. –|–– Ceo \ rant 13:27, 7 March 2006 (GMT)

Fine by me. Gruen2alk 13:34, 7 March 2006 (GMT)

I agree. but I believe we will need support from more people before we do this. --swilatia 21:27, 7 March 2006 (GMT)

I like Dymero's version, although I'm not exactly sure why there's an mdash in the second paragraph. --Goobergunch|? 22:42, 7 March 2006 (GMT)

That's just because I basically copied and pasted the entire paragraph, and then integrated the article number into the first paragraph. It can be removed for the actual main page. --Dymero 23:52, 7 March 2006 (GMT)

Okay, five people support. should we do this, or is there not enough support still? --swilatia 00:38, 10 March 2006 (GMT)

Not sure about the rules around here, but I know that Wikipedia's general standard is overwhelming support, or a week without overwheming opposition, and it's almost a week, and it has overwhelming support thus far. --Dymero 08:12, 11 March 2006 (GMT)

I'm slightly concerned that it will push the Featured Article 'below the fold' for people with smaller screen resolutions, but overall I support the idea. --Safalra 11:49, 11 March 2006 (GMT)

Yea, I mentioned that above. Maybe there's a way of condensing the text? I'll look into it. --Dymero 00:46, 12 March 2006 (GMT) -- Ok, I've tried to condense it without removing any of the important information, so take a look.

Perhaps this could work? Ceo \ rant \ rave 03:46, 12 March 2006 (GMT)

Well, that creates the problem of having some important information on the bottom. However, I did like the move of the disclaimer to the bottom. I don't think of it as pertinent as the other information. I moved it down on mine version, and the Featured Article problem seems to be fixed in my opinion.

OK, that looks good. I think we'll need Goobergunch's permission to move the disclaimer to the bottom.

Well, it's been a couple weeks, and no word from Goobergunch. I've left a message on his talk page about this. The history shows he was here yesterday (albeit removing some spam), and no objections. I'm not entirely sure of the rules around here, so I don't know how long we're supposed to wait, but can this go forward? »Dymero|t 03:23, 31 March 2006 (GMT)

Sure, go ahead. --Goobergunch|? 10:54, 31 March 2006 (GMT)

I actally am against moving the disclaimer down, because t will bring us back where we started, with important info on the bottom. --swilatia 12:37, 31 March

2006 (GMT)

I kind have some new Idea, since there is no respose for long time. I think all this how to get started stuff should be moved to a separate page. --swilatia 09:19, 4 July 2006 (GMT)

Oooh...neat! One suggestion: type __NOTOC__ and __NOEDITSECTION__ at the top of the page, to get rid of those annoying edit links and the TOC. Ceorana 16:14, 4 July 2006 (GMT)

done. --swilatia 18:36, 4 July 2006 (GMT)

The original layout of the main page was mine, but I prefer the Swilata layout. Very clean. I say, "go for it". Fris 02:47, 5 July 2006 (GMT)

Okay, but we will definately need more support for making such a large change. --swilatia 15:29, 21 July 2006 (GMT)

Server errors

Do we know what's causing them, and can we fix them? They're making the Wiki completely unusable. Rolatia 20:26, 15 April 2006 (GMT)

User talk:Goobergunch, NSwiki:To do. They're a known problem, we can't fix them. But they probably will get better for a while in a while. Ceo \ rant \ rave 22:13, 15 April 2006 (GMT)

Main Page Makeover?

I've been considering making over the Main Page for some time now, especially making the main page moreso like the main page for Wikipedia. I've created a test page for what a wikipedia-like NSwiki main page may look like at Main Page/Jey, and would like to know what the community thinks about changing the main page look along these lines. I would not be opposed to only partially implementing sections of this page, such as only including the top "welcome" section. ^Je_y^° 20:34, 19 October 2006 (GMT)

I made something like that a while ago. it is here. --swilatia 21:25, 19 October 2006 (GMT)

Nice work, you two. I think they are excellent templates with which to consider moving forward on a remade version of the Main Page. Since I agree with Gruen in that we don't need to do everything like Wikipedia (and we don't anyway), I'm thinking we'd be better off building a main page that suited our needs, and took the best principles off the Main Page at Wikipedia. (( Pacitalkia )) Time sent: 21:56, 19 October 2006 (GMT)

Both very nice. And indeed, no need to have an exact copy of Wikipedia's. Aridd 22:06, 19 October 2006 (GMT)

The thing is though, the point behind mine is not to match wikipedia's, but the fact the main page should not be almost entirely on how to get started, and I feel that the pagecount should not be at the very bottom. --swilatia 11:41, 26 October 2006 (GMT)

I like both of them: Swilatia's possibly more so. ~Gruen2alk 15:26, 26 October 2006 (GMT)

Yeah, those are both very nice. I'm slightly partial to Swilatia's because it doesn't leave an "empty box" of whitespace on the upper right of my screen (I run at a 1680x1050 resolution), but tweaking Jey's to fix that wouldn't be too difficult. However, I would prefer the notice about getting started to be a bit more prominent on Swilatia's - fewer confused new users means less administrative work. --User:Goobergunch|? 16:47, 26 October 2006 (GMT)

Newest Wiki code?

Can we bring in more updated wikipedia codes, for things like updated infoboxes?

Main Page redirect Bug

what happened to my page? South Nashville?(unsigned comment left by User South Nashville)

^ South Nashville is right there... Is that it? John 04:59, 9 February 2007 (GMT)

hmm, yeah...mozilla is acting weird. It came up on IE but mozilla is redirecting me to the front page. I didn't sleep well I thought I had lost my main page =). Backing it up now...

I'm on IE and I've been constantly redirected to the Main Page. Some sort of bug. It seems OK now. Aridd 17:14, 9 February 2007 (GMT)

I've spoken too soon. It's been happening on and off since. When I try to access a page, any page, it sends me to the Main Page instead. Weird. Aridd 21:09, 9 February 2007 (GMT)

Same here (Firefox). On and off: sometimes it goes straight to the main page, once it tried to redirect but Firefox said something about "impossible". But we're able to edit here, which has to count for something...I'll see if IE is any better.--Ember Nickel 21:17, 9 February 2007 (GMT)

IE slower, but doesn't redirect.--Ember Nickel 21:23, 9 February 2007 (GMT)

The page isn't redirecting properly

I get this error: "Firefox has detected that the server is redirecting the request for this address in a way that will never complete. This problem can sometimes be caused by disabling or refusing to accept cookies." The url in the address bar switches from whatever page i was trying to go to the main page. so yeah clear cookies i guess? John 22:56, 10 February 2007 (GMT)

I get that error too sometimes, mostly when using the NSWiki search box up by the address box. I also get the redirection to main page bug. It seems that some pages do it more than others. Talk:Nation codes is giving me trouble currently. I use Firefox, but in IE7 it seems to work...--Ked|talk|fax 19:47, 11 February 2007 (GMT)

The "Firefox has detected that the server is redirecting the request for this address in a way that will never complete." thing also comes up when I just normally open up the main page. Perhaps the main page is also trying to redirect to the main page. It certainly looks like something that will never be completed. --swilatia 12:40, 12 February 2007 (GMT)

New Version of Main Page

What exactly is being redone? My suggestion would be, as Swilatia mentioned on Template talk:Currencies, to change the featured article more often. In order to promote better articles and recognition of article quality, I believe there should be some more "meta-" work going on behind the scenes: there's a hazy netherworld of backup in the featured-article area (and pages for deletion, as well, which is why a fifth sysop would be a good idea as mentioned).--Ember Nickel 16:37, 4 March 2007 (GMT)

The two ideas for a new main page are linked above, but I'll put them here as well. Main Page/Jey and User:Swilatia/Main Page Idea. (( Pacitalkia )) Time sent: 17:21, 4 March 2007 (GMT)

Ah, thanks. I like Swilatia's navigation system in the top right: however, Swilatia's bold "not affiliated with Nationstates or Jolt" and Jey's white space are both jarring. (I know we have a disclaimer like Swilatia's now and it's important-maybe the right alignment is odd?)--Ember Nickel 18:06, 4 March 2007 (GMT)

I have a slight preference for Jey's, but they're both good. And yes, changing the featured article fairly often would be a good idea. Aridd 17:40, 4 March 2007 (GMT)

I'm glad to see nitpicking on these layouts: that's exactly what we should be doing. I think the best thing to do would be to implement one of the two suggested new looks and then proceed on making the minor cosmetic and formatting changes based on user suggestions, plus start adding in metacode and fancy whatchamacallits after where applicable. So, let's save votes for the actual ballot. And, for the record, we should be rotating the featured articles every 60 days, to cite convention. (( Pacitalkia )) Time sent: 18:40, 4 March 2007 (GMT)

Where is the convention?--Ember Nickel 23:42, 4 March 2007 (GMT)

Well, considering that convention is defined as something that is followed but not written down, I'd say you'd have a hard time finding it. =p We've just always seemed to change it every 60 days or so, unless we're lazy. But that's not to say we can't rotate the front page content more or less often. (( Pacitalkia )) Time sent: 03:37, 5 March 2007 (GMT)

30 days would seem more logical to me. For the record, I see the sense in Swilatia's choice; it does look neater, and the link is hard to miss. But... I personally feel the Main Page itself should contain "getting started" information, so that the Main Page is particularly helpful to new users. To me, it's one of the most important aspects. That's just my highly subjective view, of course. Aridd 18:56, 4 March 2007 (GMT)

The current layout of the Main Page is something I worked out a couple years ago. It's WAAY overdue for replacement. Somebody just do it - it's time. If people don't like it, try something different.

I used to change the featured article every week or two, and the tip of the day ... well, daily. Honestly, it was too much work, and I gave it up. I did write up some instructions on how to replace both featured articles and TotD, but I don't remember where I put them. Oh well. - Fris 02:24, 8 March 2007 (GMT)