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The FAC discussion for [[Pacitalia]] was moved to [[/Archive]] by [[User:Pacitalia|Pacitalia]] on '''1 February 2006''' at '''19:08 GMT'''.
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'''Support'''
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== UN HDI Nonsense ==
# A most excellent article, in my humble opinion. So I'm suggesting it as a candidate to be featured. - [[User_talk:Ariddia|Aridd]] (20 Sept 2005)
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I don't think that we should include UNHDI numbers in wiki articles because they're entirely arbitary - see my arguments in [[Talk:Knootoss#UN_HDI_Nonsense]]. --[[User:Pantocratoria|Pantocratoria]] 14:55, 26 January 2006 (GMT)
# Well, I used it as an inspiration for my own nation article, so yeah, I think it's pretty decent. ;) --[[Bedistan]]|<small>[[User talk:Bedistan|Beditalk]]</small> 00:59, 21 September 2005 (GMT)
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:About as arbitrary as your capital, your GDP, your leader, and everything else. You can campaign against them, perhaps on the forums, but for now, if anyone wants to RP your HDI, I don't see why we should stop them. '''''[[User:Ceorana|<font color="#00CCCC">&rarr; Ceo</font>]] \ [[User talk:Ceorana|<font color="#0066CC">squawk</font>]]''''' 21:41, 27 January 2006 (GMT)
# Support. --[[User:Knootoss||Knoot]]|[[User talk:Knootoss|KNOO<small>talk</small>]] 16:30, 29 September 2005 (GMT)
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#Feature that sucker. [[User:HotRodia|HotRodia]] 10:27, 9 October 2005 (GMT)
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#Feature it. Go baby go!  [[User:The Philosophes|The Philosophes]] 22:09, 23 October 2005 (GMT)
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# I like it. Fluent and interesting. Feature it! -- [[User:Ceorana|<font color="blue">Ceo</font>]][[User talk:Ceorana|<font color="green">rant</font>]] 16:21, 5 November 2005 (GMT)
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#Full support.[[User:Gruenberg2|<font color="green">Gruen</font>]][[User_talk:Gruenberg2|<font color="red">2alk</font>]] 20:39, 6 November 2005 (GMT)
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#Very nice article, very complete. ([[User:ITD|ITD]] 03:36, 27 November 2005 (GMT))
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#I have no doubts that this is a complete and very well written article.  [[User:Macabees|Macabees]] 05:59, 10 December 2005 (GMT)
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#If it helps, I support it. Excellently done. --[[User:68.54.161.91|68.54.161.91]] 05:47, 25 December 2005 (GMT)
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'''Oppose'''
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:::GDPs can be provided by calculators, although the decision as to which exactly is to be used is an arbitrary one. As for all the other things, they're quite different since  they're not a means for comparison between nations. The webgame provides our framework for comparing between nations, the idea of an RPed UNHDI being produced out of the blue doesn't sit right with me... maybe I'll make a calculator and offer it for people to use though instead of just bitching about it. --[[User:Pantocratoria|Pantocratoria]] 04:09, 28 January 2006 (GMT)
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::::I have created a formula and spreadsheet to calculate an HDI, which I used for [[Ceorana|my nation]]. The formula may be found at [[Ceorana Department of State Human Development Index]]. If you have some experience with programming, I'd say it wouldn't be difficult to make a nice calculator for it. '''''[[User:Ceorana|<font color="#00CCCC">&rarr; Ceo</font>]] \ [[User talk:Ceorana|<font color="#0066CC">squawk</font>]]''''' 04:28, 28 January 2006 (GMT)
  
'''Neutral'''
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== "True" Republic? ==
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I'm not quite sure what the discussion of Pacitalia's model of government is on about when it talks about whether Pacitalia is or isn't a true republic. I have never heard of any distinction being made as to whether a republic is truly a republic or not on the basis of whether it has a president or not. I am under the impression that a republic is a state in which the people are themselves sovereign (as opposed to a monarch). Since it's a fairly prominent, early paragraph, maybe some explanation of what a true republic is would be in order, even if it is just a link to a Wikipedia article (and [[Wikipedia:Republic]] doesn't clear it up for me) --[[User:Pantocratoria|Pantocratoria]] 14:14, 18 February 2006 (GMT)
  
'''Comments/Questions'''
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:Actually, you know what? True in this case might be a classic case of good ol' redundancy. ;)
* Thanks for the FAC on this article. Although lots of hard hours of labour went into this, I didn't expect that type of satisfaction with my work. ;) I added the feature candidate vote as well. '''[[User:Pacitalia|Pacitalia]]|<small>[[User_talk:Pacitalia|PaciTalk]]</small>''' 12:31, 21 September 2005 (GMT)
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* Since this has been open for almost three months, with no dissent, is it time to feature it? ~ [[User:Ceorana|<font color="blue"><sup>C</sup><sub>e</sub><sup>o</sup></font>]][[User talk:Ceorana|<font color="green"><small>rant (or rave)</small></font>]] 00:30, November 19, 2005 (GMT)
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:I'm a republic, pure and simple, where as you said, the people are sovereign, not the monarch. I'll just get rid of that "true republic" nonsense. Thanks for catching that. (( [[User:Pacitalia|<font color="navy">Paci</font>]][[User_talk:Pacitalia|<font color="green">'''talk'''</font>]][[User:Pacitalia|<font color="red">ia</font>]] )) <small>Time sent:</small> 19:14, 18 February 2006 (GMT)
** Let's give another contributor's FAC a chance - Holy Church of Floyd is also 7/0/0 - let's go with them. --[[User:Pacitalia|<font color="navy">Paci</font>]][[User_talk:Pacitalia|<font color="green">'''talk'''</font>]][[User:Pacitalia|<font color="red">ia</font>]] 01:06, 20 November 2005 (GMT)
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*Do IP votes count? This'll be featured anyway, and I agree with that, but I'm not sure [[User:68.54.161.91|68.54.161.91's]] vote should be included. [[User:Gruenberg2|<font color="green">Gruen</font>]][[User_talk:Gruenberg2|<font color="red">2alk</font>]] 15:07, 25 December 2005 (GMT)
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: My country ([[Athens and Midlands]] is a republic and still has the death penalty for child merder only. But I am thinking of incorporating a monarchy to my nation. Anyway, keep up the good work. By the way, how did you get the custom menu at the bottom of the page to show up? --[[User:Constantina|<font face='verdana' color="orange">'''Constantina'''</font>]] 18:27, 31 March 2006 (GMT)
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::I figure what I meant by "true" republic was that a basic republic has a president as head of state and a prime minister as head of government. But, yeah, it seems not to cause as much confusion if it's excluded from the article, so that's that.
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::As for my template, that was made by me. CH, Bedi and Star have similar templates, check their nation pages out. ([[Commerce Heights]], [[Bedistan]], [[Starblaydia]]) (( [[User:Pacitalia|<font color="navy">Paci</font>]][[User_talk:Pacitalia|<font color="green">'''talk'''</font>]][[User:Pacitalia|<font color="red">ia</font>]] )) <small>Time sent:</small> 18:47, 31 March 2006 (GMT)
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== Awesome map! ==
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Just popped in to say that. Terrific map you've got there! Might I ask how did you make it? If I remember correctly, you had a different version sometime ago. I recognize it's a somewhat altered version of Mexico, but it has always been like that. Cheers! --[[User:Wingarde|Wingarde]] 15:21, 12 March 2006 (GMT)
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== Featured?  Twice? ==
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Isn't there some sort of rule against previous featured articles being made featured articles _again_?  The only change I saw was the Map, which went from full color to blue. That couldn't possibly alone warrant re-featuring...
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[[User:Kajal|Kajal]] 21:37, 24 March 2006 (GMT)
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:I don't think it was refeatured. My article on the [[Pacitalian]] language was featured first, then this one. :P (( [[User:Pacitalia|<font color="navy">Paci</font>]][[User_talk:Pacitalia|<font color="green">'''talk'''</font>]][[User:Pacitalia|<font color="red">ia</font>]] )) <small>Time sent:</small> 22:11, 24 March 2006 (GMT)
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== Dates ==
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Do ''CE'' and ''AD'' in this article mean ''[[Wikipedia:Common Era|Common Era]]'' and ''[[Wikipedia:Anno Domini|Anno Domini]]'', or something else? If they do have those meanings, why is ''CE'' before the year and ''AD'' after it? —[[User:Commerce Heights|Commerce Heights]] ([[User talk:Commerce Heights|talk]]) 00:50, 31 May 2006 (GMT)
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== What happend ==
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Has this page being changed, or has there being some vandalism. [[User:Windscar|windscar]] 21:24, 6 June 2006 (GMT)
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:There was some vandalism. Feel free to revert it if you spot it. [[User:Gruenberg2|<font color="green">~Gruen</font>]][[User_talk:Gruenberg2|<font color="red">2</font>]] 21:59, 6 June 2006 (GMT)
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== PBC Request ==
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I would like to make a request for the broadcast of PBC services in the Republic of Athens (Athens and Midlands).
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Thanks.
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--[[User:Constantina|<font face='verdana' color="orange">'''Constantina'''</font>]] 19:08, 13 August 2006 (GMT)
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== Great Page ==
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Well, I know I'm pointing out the obviouse since this is a featured article but seriously, Pacitalia, I don't have the imagination to come up with half the information on this page. This article is better written than many nation pages on Wikipedia. Good work. [[User:Neo-Erusea|Neo-Erusea]] 21:42, 11 October 2006 (GMT)
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:Indeed. While it may not exactly contribute in an exactly important manner, I'd like to second that. ''':'''3 '''[[User:Blast|<font color=red>Bl</font>]][[User_talk:Blast|<font color=yellow>a</font>]][[User:Blast|<font color=red>st</font>]]''' 04.11.06 2245 (UTC -5)

Latest revision as of 23:47, 4 November 2006

The FAC discussion for Pacitalia was moved to /Archive by Pacitalia on 1 February 2006 at 19:08 GMT.

UN HDI Nonsense

I don't think that we should include UNHDI numbers in wiki articles because they're entirely arbitary - see my arguments in Talk:Knootoss#UN_HDI_Nonsense. --Pantocratoria 14:55, 26 January 2006 (GMT)

About as arbitrary as your capital, your GDP, your leader, and everything else. You can campaign against them, perhaps on the forums, but for now, if anyone wants to RP your HDI, I don't see why we should stop them. → Ceo \ squawk 21:41, 27 January 2006 (GMT)
GDPs can be provided by calculators, although the decision as to which exactly is to be used is an arbitrary one. As for all the other things, they're quite different since they're not a means for comparison between nations. The webgame provides our framework for comparing between nations, the idea of an RPed UNHDI being produced out of the blue doesn't sit right with me... maybe I'll make a calculator and offer it for people to use though instead of just bitching about it. --Pantocratoria 04:09, 28 January 2006 (GMT)
I have created a formula and spreadsheet to calculate an HDI, which I used for my nation. The formula may be found at Ceorana Department of State Human Development Index. If you have some experience with programming, I'd say it wouldn't be difficult to make a nice calculator for it. → Ceo \ squawk 04:28, 28 January 2006 (GMT)

"True" Republic?

I'm not quite sure what the discussion of Pacitalia's model of government is on about when it talks about whether Pacitalia is or isn't a true republic. I have never heard of any distinction being made as to whether a republic is truly a republic or not on the basis of whether it has a president or not. I am under the impression that a republic is a state in which the people are themselves sovereign (as opposed to a monarch). Since it's a fairly prominent, early paragraph, maybe some explanation of what a true republic is would be in order, even if it is just a link to a Wikipedia article (and Wikipedia:Republic doesn't clear it up for me) --Pantocratoria 14:14, 18 February 2006 (GMT)

Actually, you know what? True in this case might be a classic case of good ol' redundancy. ;)
I'm a republic, pure and simple, where as you said, the people are sovereign, not the monarch. I'll just get rid of that "true republic" nonsense. Thanks for catching that. (( Pacitalkia )) Time sent: 19:14, 18 February 2006 (GMT)
My country (Athens and Midlands is a republic and still has the death penalty for child merder only. But I am thinking of incorporating a monarchy to my nation. Anyway, keep up the good work. By the way, how did you get the custom menu at the bottom of the page to show up? --Constantina 18:27, 31 March 2006 (GMT)
I figure what I meant by "true" republic was that a basic republic has a president as head of state and a prime minister as head of government. But, yeah, it seems not to cause as much confusion if it's excluded from the article, so that's that.
As for my template, that was made by me. CH, Bedi and Star have similar templates, check their nation pages out. (Commerce Heights, Bedistan, Starblaydia) (( Pacitalkia )) Time sent: 18:47, 31 March 2006 (GMT)

Awesome map!

Just popped in to say that. Terrific map you've got there! Might I ask how did you make it? If I remember correctly, you had a different version sometime ago. I recognize it's a somewhat altered version of Mexico, but it has always been like that. Cheers! --Wingarde 15:21, 12 March 2006 (GMT)

Featured? Twice?

Isn't there some sort of rule against previous featured articles being made featured articles _again_? The only change I saw was the Map, which went from full color to blue. That couldn't possibly alone warrant re-featuring...

Kajal 21:37, 24 March 2006 (GMT)

I don't think it was refeatured. My article on the Pacitalian language was featured first, then this one. :P (( Pacitalkia )) Time sent: 22:11, 24 March 2006 (GMT)

Dates

Do CE and AD in this article mean Common Era and Anno Domini, or something else? If they do have those meanings, why is CE before the year and AD after it? —Commerce Heights (talk) 00:50, 31 May 2006 (GMT)

What happend

Has this page being changed, or has there being some vandalism. windscar 21:24, 6 June 2006 (GMT)

There was some vandalism. Feel free to revert it if you spot it. ~Gruen2 21:59, 6 June 2006 (GMT)

PBC Request

I would like to make a request for the broadcast of PBC services in the Republic of Athens (Athens and Midlands).

Thanks.

--Constantina 19:08, 13 August 2006 (GMT)

Great Page

Well, I know I'm pointing out the obviouse since this is a featured article but seriously, Pacitalia, I don't have the imagination to come up with half the information on this page. This article is better written than many nation pages on Wikipedia. Good work. Neo-Erusea 21:42, 11 October 2006 (GMT)

Indeed. While it may not exactly contribute in an exactly important manner, I'd like to second that. :3 Blast 04.11.06 2245 (UTC -5)