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<h3> {{PAGENAME}} FAC Vote (6/0/0) </h3>
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FAC vote and subsequent posting was removed and placed in [[/Archive]]. FAC status was removed by me because the nation in question has been deleted by the mods for offensive content. Which is too bad, since this is a good page, to be honest. (( [[User:Pacitalia|<font color="navy">Paci</font>]][[User_talk:Pacitalia|<font color="green">'''talk'''</font>]][[User:Pacitalia|<font color="red">ia</font>]] )) <small>Time sent:</small> 18:56, 14 March 2006 (GMT)
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:Why do we have to remove the FAC? Ok, so the ''nation'' no longer exists, but that's not necessarily a reason not to feature the ''article''. [[User:Gruenberg2|<font color="green">Gruen</font>]][[User_talk:Gruenberg2|<font color="red">2alk</font>]] 19:09, 14 March 2006 (GMT)
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::It can't be the policy of NSwiki to have a player who got himself deated for very offensive reasons that insulted many players come back here and then have his nation article featured. It just doesn't make sense and it makes us look somewhat bad. Though we are a separate entity of NationStates, and of the mods, in this case we just cannot judge Guff differently, especially based on the way he's acted. Like I said, it's a shame that Guff did it, since this article deserves to be on the front page, but his actions have forced the proverbial hand on this matter. (( [[User:Pacitalia|<font color="navy">Paci</font>]][[User_talk:Pacitalia|<font color="green">'''talk'''</font>]][[User:Pacitalia|<font color="red">ia</font>]] )) <small>Time sent:</small> 23:50, 14 March 2006 (GMT)
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:::Ok. Since I don't know the player or any of the events of the deletion, and am assuming you do to a greater extent, I'll defer to your judgment. I've added a little note on the [[/Archive/|archived FAC vote]]. [[User:Gruenberg2|<font color="green">Gruen</font>]][[User_talk:Gruenberg2|<font color="red">2alk</font>]] 00:05, 15 March 2006 (GMT)
  
'''Support'''
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==Reply==
# I '''support''' for the reasons stated below.  This is a well written article and offers spectacular information over the nation of Guffingford; not to mention, this article has received an outstanding amount of traffic since it was first begun.  In my opinion, I see no reason why this shouldn't be a featured article. [[User:Macabees|Macabees]] 20:44, 29 December 2005 (GMT)
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As long as I can continue editting my pages, I'm fine with everything. --[[User:Guffingford|Guffingford]]
# I agree with Mac. It's getting even better. (Edit: And I think the OOC Preamble thing is one of the most original additions to an article we've seen for a while.) --[[User:Pacitalia|<font color="navy">Paci</font>]][[User_talk:Pacitalia|<font color="green">'''talk'''</font>]][[User:Pacitalia|<font color="red">ia</font>]] 00:20, 30 December 2005 (GMT)
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# I'm also supporting this! Not only because I wrote everything, but it deserves a place on the featured articles list. And I'll see if I can improve the layout, I've been seriously messing around with the Wiki code. - [[Guffingford]], posted on the last day of 2005! [[User:Guffingford|Guffingford]] 11:18, 31 December 2005 (GMT)
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# I'm changing my vote to yes after Guffingford's changes which seriously improved it. '''''[[User:Ceorana|<font color="#00CCCC">&rarr; Ceo</font>]] \ [[User talk:Ceorana|<font color="#0066CC">squawk</font>]]''''' 16:15, 31 December 2005 (GMT)
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# As an ''in toto'' article, I'm not sure it's '''the''' example to set, but it is a well-composed, interesting read, and there's certainly plenty that would make for a good FA slot on the [[Main Page|main page]], as it's split into sections, so I'd '''support''' it. Out of interest, why did you take the colour out of the parties section at the bottom? I thought that looked better will colours than grey. [[User:Gruenberg2|<font color="green">Gruen</font>]][[User_talk:Gruenberg2|<font color="red">2alk</font>]] 17:50, 31 December 2005 (GMT)
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# I '''support''' this article as being extremely well-written.[[User:Skinny|Skinny]] 16:50, 3 February 2006 (GMT) [[User:129.12.225.205|129.12.225.205]] 18:06, 23 January 2006 (GMT)<font color=gray>
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# I '''support''' this article because it is one of the the most detailed and well thought out history i have seen [[User:82.35.114.43|82.35.114.43]] 11:50, 29 January 2006 (GMT)
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# I '''support''' this article as it well-written and thought-out, with a detailed history section and a good use of photographs. [[User:88.105.245.221|88.105.245.221]]</font>
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'''Oppose'''
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:Sure. Just don't post any offensive pictures and I think we can do that. ;) (( [[User:Pacitalia|<font color="navy">Paci</font>]][[User_talk:Pacitalia|<font color="green">'''talk'''</font>]][[User:Pacitalia|<font color="red">ia</font>]] )) <small>Time sent:</small> 17:13, 15 March 2006 (GMT)
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#<s>I find that although the content is brilliant, the layout is a bit difficult. '''''[[User:Ceorana|<font color="#00CCCC">&rarr; Ceo</font>]] \ [[User talk:Ceorana|<font color="#0066CC">squawk</font>]]''''' 05:04, 30 December 2005 (GMT)</s>
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'''Comments/Questions'''
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* Ceo, I see your point. But '''what''' about the layout is difficult? --[[User:Pacitalia|<font color="navy">Paci</font>]][[User_talk:Pacitalia|<font color="green">'''talk'''</font>]][[User:Pacitalia|<font color="red">ia</font>]] 20:37, 30 December 2005 (GMT)
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**<s>Yes, sorry I was a bit unclear. I mean that the mix of OOC, IC, OOC tags, tables without borders and such make it a bit hard to figure out what the nation is, what it stands for, what's important and what's not, etc. '''''[[User:Ceorana|<font color="#00CCCC">&rarr; Ceo</font>]] \ [[User talk:Ceorana|<font color="#0066CC">squawk</font>]]''''' 20:45, 30 December 2005 (GMT)</s>Edit: It looks better now. '''''[[User:Ceorana|<font color="#00CCCC">&rarr; Ceo</font>]] \ [[User talk:Ceorana|<font color="#0066CC">squawk</font>]]''''' 16:15, 31 December 2005 (GMT)
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*I think the language with regards to Knootian independence could stand to be a little more NPOV. I'll try to fix a bit of it myself. --[[User:Knootoss||Knoot]]|[[User talk:Knootoss|KNOO<small>talk</small>]] 02:19, 3 January 2006 (GMT)
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==FAC==
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I decided to give this FAC status.  I think it well deserves it, being the target of many viewers and readers, and moreover, well written and highly factual.  So, in my opinion it deserves a go.
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==IP Voting==
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Votes 6, 7 and 8 cannot be counted until the voters login and account for their vote. Plus the explanations are all suspiciously similar... (( [[User:Pacitalia|<font color="navy">Paci</font>]][[User_talk:Pacitalia|<font color="green">'''talk'''</font>]][[User:Pacitalia|<font color="red">ia</font>]] )) <small>Time sent:</small> 18:34, 31 January 2006 (GMT)
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==REPLY!==
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The last two are Skinny and Praetonia I believe, the first one is unknown. And the fact the IPs are similar doesn't mean a thing. It seems all three are from the UK, and maybe on the same host.
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Yes, sorry, one of those is mine. I keep forgetting to log into the damn website. Apologies [[User:Skinny|Skinny]] 16:48, 3 February 2006 (GMT)
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Latest revision as of 13:13, 15 March 2006

FAC vote and subsequent posting was removed and placed in /Archive. FAC status was removed by me because the nation in question has been deleted by the mods for offensive content. Which is too bad, since this is a good page, to be honest. (( Pacitalkia )) Time sent: 18:56, 14 March 2006 (GMT)

Why do we have to remove the FAC? Ok, so the nation no longer exists, but that's not necessarily a reason not to feature the article. Gruen2alk 19:09, 14 March 2006 (GMT)
It can't be the policy of NSwiki to have a player who got himself deated for very offensive reasons that insulted many players come back here and then have his nation article featured. It just doesn't make sense and it makes us look somewhat bad. Though we are a separate entity of NationStates, and of the mods, in this case we just cannot judge Guff differently, especially based on the way he's acted. Like I said, it's a shame that Guff did it, since this article deserves to be on the front page, but his actions have forced the proverbial hand on this matter. (( Pacitalkia )) Time sent: 23:50, 14 March 2006 (GMT)
Ok. Since I don't know the player or any of the events of the deletion, and am assuming you do to a greater extent, I'll defer to your judgment. I've added a little note on the archived FAC vote. Gruen2alk 00:05, 15 March 2006 (GMT)

Reply

As long as I can continue editting my pages, I'm fine with everything. --Guffingford

Sure. Just don't post any offensive pictures and I think we can do that. ;) (( Pacitalkia )) Time sent: 17:13, 15 March 2006 (GMT)