Difference between revisions of "User talk:Ceorana"

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Introduction

Welcome to User:Ceorana talk! Feel free to post whatever you want to say! (Oh, and sign everything with four tildes (~~~~) so we know who you are!) Ceorana|Φ 02:51, 20 October 2005 (GMT)

FAC votes

When voting on an featured article candidate, or in any vote, you need to update the vote tally manually. In this case, you didn't, so there were no votes 'for' recorded in the tally.Gruenberg2 07:45, 20 October 2005 (GMT)

Will remember to do in the future. Thanks! Ceorana|Φ 21:27, 20 October 2005 (GMT)

Re: clean-up of violet

I have removed the clean-up tag from violet. I believe that this constitutes a part of NS lore, and as such the admitted irregularity of the article is acceptable. I have commented as such on NSwiki:Cleanup. If you still believe clean-up is required, perhaps we could discuss it first: we don't want to be ping-ponging the tag in and out of the article.Gruen2alk 20:33, 6 November 2005 (GMT)

I don't see what can be cleaned up. It's taken from elsewhere, and I don't see how quoted statements can be changed. Are we going to change each one to 'according to TSM, "..."'? I agree fully with your keenness to clean-up NSwiki: but I believe this article represents a special, allowable exception, similar to the Hall of Ex-Nations. There are many other articles on the cleanup page more in need of attention.Gruen2alk 02:21, 7 November 2005 (GMT)

Hogsweat deletion controversy

This is a sensitive. Please be careful in your edits. Gruen2alk 19:12, 20 November 2005 (GMT)

Sober Thought and semi-generic headings

Due to the signature, this response could belong to somebody else; if so, send it on its way.

1. Thanks for noticing; sometimes I wonder if I'm the only one who reads this pap. 8^)
2. Thanks for caring enough to leave a message; few people do.
3. I'll try to explain my rationale (in my normal longwinded way 8^) )and you can tell me how it could be improved for my benefit and the benefit of the NSWiki community.

When I named my three main branches of the armed services, I deliberately (for RP and for NSWiki reasons) chose abnormal titles. E.g., the Air Service would much more commonly be called Air Force, Airforce, Air Corps, xian Air Force, Air Defence Force, etc. This is especially true of the Land Service, where Army would by far be the natural language (but rejected by me on philosophical and linguistic grounds).

My main entry for all the armed forces is at Community Defence Forces, which incorporates something like your idea of prefixing each entry with "Sober Thought." While Community is one of the dropdown options for national pre-titles, I've rarely seen it used. In fact, my official GP pre-title is now Gemeinde (a direct German translation) of Community and in keeping with my RP history of the country, a bilingual French-English country that splits the difference and uses German for certain official purposes. The combination of "Community," "Defence" spelled with a C and "Forces" with a plural is highly unlikely to occur in any other NSWiki combination.

Now that I've gone completely insane and NS is becoming more important that RL (I'm not sure if a smiley or a frowney belongs here more), I've greatly expanded the entries for the Land Service, Naval Service and Air Service so that they need to be broken up. I have elected to use (where sensible and possible) each of the three armed services (and Defence Forces should that become necesssary) as the lead words for my articles. So Air Service fighter is a reasonably distinctive title, certainly better than "Fighter" or even "F-1 Fighter" (which applies to my fictional fighter, but is an obvious designation for even a casual observer of military aviation). Does this make sense?

Would Community Defence fighter make more sense? I was trying to get all the army articles to file together (so far, they all have numbers as the lead character), the navy (Community Vessel Destroyer|Community Vessel]] series, and perhaps one or two in the future with "Naval Service" as the first two leading words of several in the whole article title) and the air force (which caused the whole issue in the first place). But just as easily I could have all the unified services' components interfile (e.g., Community Defence fighter, Community Defence land formations [awkward and ambiguous meaning of the article I would like to eventually create, namely Land Service formations], Community Defence frigate).

I am sincerely interested in hearing your opinion and getting advice. I have already had article naming issues; when I started this family of scores of pages, I never imagined I'd have more than one so I used the one-page nation template instead of the factbook one. Then I made a page for my real world self. Then I added some others, and pretty soon the main page became Sober Thought fictional which gummed up the works with NSEconomy (because the page name did not exactly match the NS country name). I also called one of my provinces North Island, which was then usurped by a country of the same name. So I left the country at the main page and put a pointer to other meanings, i.e., North Island (Sober Thought) which is the preferred wiki way.

Please, I will give every consideration to any ideas you have.

And since you took the trouble to look at mine, I'll have a peek at yours too. It seems a shame to let creativity wither on the vine away from public view.

Thanks again for your help.