|
|
| Line 1: |
Line 1: |
| − | <div style="color:red;margin-bottom:15px;">'''Converse on the ''talk'' page!'''</div>
| + | Thanks for all of your help so far. I'm going to edit that tomorrow, as I was using another nation as a template for how I typed up mine. |
| − | | + | |
| − | <div style="font-size:+2;border:1px solid #bbb;background-color:#eee;padding:2px;">
| + | |
| − | [{{SERVER}}{{localurl:pagename|action=edit§ion=new}} Leave a message]</div>
| + | |
| − | | + | |
| − | <div style="float:right;position:relative;bottom:22px;right:5px;">[[User_talk:Rechze/Archives|Archives]] | [[User:Rechze|User page]]</div>
| + | |
| − | | + | |
| − | <div style="border-color:#ccdd55;border-width:2px 0px 2px 0px;border-style:solid;">
| + | |
| − | <div style="border-color:#bbcc66;border-width:1px 0px 1px 0px;border-style:solid;">
| + | |
| − | <div style="border-color:orange;border-width:1px 0px 1px 0px;border-style:solid;padding:10px;background-color:#fffffd">
| + | |
| − | <!-- PLEASE DO NOT EDIT THIS OR ANYTHING ABOVE IT IN THE CODE -->
| + | |
| − | | + | |
| − | ==Free Land of Ysabol Help==
| + | |
| − | | + | |
| − | Thanks for helping me with my page on The Free Land of Ysabol. | + | |
| − | I am completely new to both nationstates and Wiki, so have been fiddling with things all by my lonesome :)
| + | |
| − | I have added Headers, and someone else (I don't know how to check whom) helped me make my page look much nicer.
| + | |
| − | --[[User:Ysabol|ysabol]] 01:20, 11 Dec 2004 (GMT)
| + | |
| − | | + | |
| − | ----
| + | |
| − | Stop me if I'm being a pest, but ...
| + | |
| − | | + | |
| − | You're advising members to use your nice DIV sections, but we really want to encourage people to stick with the simplicity of wiki markup. For instance:
| + | |
| − | | + | |
| − | ==<div style="border-top:1px #aaa solid;padding-top:5px;"> Culture </div>==
| + | |
| − | :versus
| + | |
| − | | + | |
| − | ----
| + | |
| − | ==Culture==
| + | |
| − | | + | |
| − | While the HTML method looks just a bit cleaner, it goes against good advice from the [[NSwiki:Style_guide#Don.27t_get_fancy|style guide]]:
| + | |
| − | | + | |
| − | :It's easier for you and whoever follows you if you don't try to get too fancy with your markup. Even with markup as suggested here, you shouldn't assume that any markup you put in is guaranteed to have a certain appearance when it is displayed.
| + | |
| − | | + | |
| − | :It is easier to display the NSwiki, easier to edit or add to its articles, if we don't make the markup any more complex than is necessary to display the information in a useful and comprehensible way. A useful encyclopedia is the first goal, but ease of editing and maintaining that encyclopedia is right behind it.
| + | |
| − | | + | |
| − | :Among other things, this means use HTML markup sparingly and only with good reason.
| + | |
| − | | + | |
| − | [[User:Frisbeeteria|→ Fris]] [[User talk:Frisbeeteria|Θ<small>''talk''</small>]] 03:49, 11 Dec 2004 (GMT)
| + | |
| − | | + | |
| − | ==Administrator Guide==
| + | |
| − | | + | |
| − | Since your adminship nomination is two days from being closed, you might want to review [[NSwiki:Admin guide|the Administrator Guide]] and acknowledge that you have read it and agree to follow it. I won't be able to set your rights +sysop until you have done so. --[[User:Goobergunch|Goobergunch]]|[[User talk:Goobergunch|?]] 19:01, 12 Dec 2004 (GMT)
| + | |
| − | | + | |
| − | == Header Usage ==
| + | |
| − | I have to disagree with your edits on [[Teh great Kazham]]. I've been trying very hard to steer people away from the use of < br>, and the standard wiki TOC settings do that nicely. It seems to me an unnecessary complication to add HTML edits when simple linefeeds work just as well, and the wiki markup provides for adequate subheads that delineate that user's page nicely. I know you're trying to help and be a good sysop candidate, but moving away from the [[NSwiki:style guide|style guide]] doesn't seem to be a move in the right direction. The author seemed happy with my initial wikifying of the article, so I'm going to revert that page. [[User:Frisbeeteria|→ Fris]] [[User talk:Frisbeeteria|Θ<small>''talk''</small>]] 23:24, 13 Dec 2004 (GMT)
| + | |
| − | : I see your point, but given that each described an entirely different weapons system, I thought it was justified. Perhaps a Definitions list would have been better, or possibly supressing the TOC (via <nowiki>__NOTOC__</nowiki>), but subheads were also fine. In any case, I'm for simplifying the page layout while keeping the article looking sharp, with whatever wiki tools come to hand. Chalk it up to a stylistic difference.
| + | |
| − | | + | |
| − | : I've noticed you removing copy/paste stuff from pages. While that goes along with [[NSwiki:Community decisions|Community decisions]], I've been dropping notes on the User:Talk or article Talk pages instead of removing it. This is a young wiki, and I think we can afford a bit of copy/paste against the risk of driving users away over draconian editing. On articles that impact more than one nation or region I would agree with that editing policy, but nation pages essentially belong to the author. Unless they are abusing the privilege with extensive copy/paste (like [[Henrytopia]]), I'd leave them alone. [[User:Frisbeeteria|→ Fris]] [[User talk:Frisbeeteria|Θ<small>''talk''</small>]] 23:59, 13 Dec 2004 (GMT)
| + | |
| − | | + | |
| − | Do you have access to the IRC channel? I'd much rather chat with you via the relative privacy of IRC or instant message than in this fairly public arena. Also, all sysops are channel ops on #nswiki. The rest of us (plus Wilem E) are all regulars there. Join us? [[User:Frisbeeteria|→ Fris]] [[User talk:Frisbeeteria|Θ<small>''talk''</small>]] 00:02, 14 Dec 2004 (GMT)
| + | |
| − | | + | |
| − | ==Thanks..==
| + | |
| − | | + | |
| − | Thanks for the hand on that edit with the LofR6MN link fix. I am fairly new to this and trying to get the ins and outs. :)
| + | |
| − | | + | |
| − | ==Thanks, but no thanks==
| + | |
| − | As much as I appreciate the intent behind editing the presentation of my country's page, I'm hardly here to conform it to "standard" presentations. What's more, there's an entire "Government" section farther down the page and the overview shouldn't be divided with a small section on government as it was... I've rearranged whatever I thought needed it to my satisfaction, but please, as a general rule, while I know this is a "cooperative" project, the cooperation should probably come on pages that aren't for individual nations. It's not your typical wiki project, and so as you might expect I feel "entitled" (whether wrongly or rightly) to at least my one little carved out corner of this site that is my nation's info page. Thanks for the assist though. It's the thought that counts. --[[User:Galdago|Galdago]]
| + | |
| − | | + | |
| − | == Nation stub project ==
| + | |
| − | | + | |
| − | Rechze, let's limit nation-stubs to just those pages that have only basic infobox information. If they have any body description at all (''Nationname is delegate to Regionname'' or ''Nationname is related to otherNationname''), or if they've created and improved 'Leader' or 'Capital' links, or added a map link, that's new material. No need to stub either of those.
| + | |
| − | | + | |
| − | Since nobody but the nation owner can really improve them in any meanful way (''with a few notable exceptions, such as nations with rich roleplaying histories''), nation stubs are unnecessary. Goober created the nation-stubs with the intent of keeping track of bare-minimum nations only. If a simple infobox nationpage goes unimproved for more than a month, we can consider deleting it. When you add stubs to almost EVERY nationpage, you effectively remove the value of such a tool. We can just as easily look in [[:Category:Nations]]. [[User:Frisbeeteria|→ Fris]] [[User talk:Frisbeeteria|Θ<small>''talk''</small>]] 16:27, 20 Dec 2004 (GMT)
| + | |
| − | :I think you've gone from overdoing it to underdoing it. What I meant above is if someone has created additional pages and linked them to their infobox (map, leader, capital, a unique national language), then an infobox alone is adequate for the page. If all they've done is invented a name for their capital and leader, that's not really content. I actually went through the list this afternoon and removed all the ones I thought needed removing. If you wanted to pick up where you left off, I think you're probably fine. [[User:Frisbeeteria|→ Fris]] [[User talk:Frisbeeteria|Θ<small>''talk''</small>]] 02:37, 21 Dec 2004 (GMT)
| + | |
Thanks for all of your help so far. I'm going to edit that tomorrow, as I was using another nation as a template for how I typed up mine.
