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The '''Community of Sober Thought''' was created in February 2005 for the NationStates game.
 
The '''Community of Sober Thought''' was created in February 2005 for the NationStates game.
  
Cut-and-paste from NationStates entry (as of 3 March 2005) <br>
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Cut-and-paste from NationStates entry (as of 9 March 2005) <br>
UN Category: '''Democratic Socialists''' <br>
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Civil Rights: '''Below Average''' [I think it should be a lot higher] <br>
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Economy: '''Weak''' [I think it should be a little higher] <br>
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UN Category: '''[[Inoffensive Centrist Democracy]]''' <br>
Political Freedoms: '''Excellent''' [I think it might be a little lower] <br>
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Civil Rights: '''Good'''<br>
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Economy: '''Reasonable'''<br>
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Political Freedoms: '''Good'''<br>
 
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Location: [[pacific]] <br>
 
Location: [[pacific]] <br>
 
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The Community of Sober Thought is a small, safe nation, remarkable for its burgeoning fox population. Its intelligent population of 12 million are fiercely patriotic and enjoy great social equality; they tend to view other, more capitalist countries as somewhat immoral and corrupt.
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The Community of Sober Thought is a large, safe nation, remarkable for its barren, inhospitable landscape. Its hard-nosed population of 26 million have some civil rights, but not too many, enjoy the freedom to spend their money however they like, to a point, and take part in free and open elections, although not too often.
 
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The large government devotes most of its attentions to Education, with areas such as Commerce and Religion & Spirituality receiving almost no funds by comparison. The average income tax rate is 26%, but much higher for the wealthy. A substantial private sector is led by the Gambling industry [moderately opposed to this, not sure why it's here], followed by Trout Farming and Information Technology.
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Genetic researchers have been expelled, organ donation rates have hit a new low [UN vote will probably change this, not sure why it's depressed], all tariffs have been abolished [caused by a response on protecting automobile industry, not a general elimination of trade duties!], and euthanasia is illegal. Crime is well under control. Sober Thought's national animal is the fox, which is also the nation's favorite main course, and its currency is the thought.
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Sober Thought is ranked 96th in the region and 59,281st in the world for Safest Nations.  
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The large government devotes most of its attentions to Education, with areas such as Religion & Spirituality and Commerce receiving almost no funds by comparison. The average income tax rate is 28%, but much higher for the wealthy. A large private sector is led by the Gambling, Beef-Based Agriculture, and Trout Farming industries.
  
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Streakers swamp all public events in order to bare it all, the government is attempting to revitalize a gutted private sector, Animal Liberationists are regularly jailed, and a National Academy regulates grammar and usage. Crime is relatively low. Sober Thought's national animal is the fox, which is also the nation's favorite main course, and its currency is the thought.
  
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Sober Thought is ranked 128th in the region and 99,688th in the world for Largest Automobile Manufacturing Sector.
  
 
{{Infobox_Nation |
 
{{Infobox_Nation |
 
flag= http://www.nationstates.net/images/flags/uploads/sober_thought.jpg|
 
flag= http://www.nationstates.net/images/flags/uploads/sober_thought.jpg|
region=[[Pacific]] (for now)|
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region=[[Pacific]] (for now, probably [[International Democratic Union]])|
 
motto=We are extreme in our moderation|
 
motto=We are extreme in our moderation|
 
map=None / Aucun / Kein |
 
map=None / Aucun / Kein |
 
language=English, français simple, schlecht Deutsch |
 
language=English, français simple, schlecht Deutsch |
 
capital=Yes / Oui / Ja |
 
capital=Yes / Oui / Ja |
population=See / Voir / Lesen NationStates |
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population=26,000,000 |
currency=Thought / Pensée / Gedanken oder Denk|
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currency=Thought / Pensée / Gedenken oder Denk|
leader=Extreme Moderate a.k.a. / autrement dit / auch heisst APD
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leader=Extreme Moderate a.k.a. / autrement dit / auch heißt APD
 
}}
 
}}
  
 
==Why am I here==
 
==Why am I here==
I came to this site in [[real world|real life]] accidentally, but it intrigued me enough to give it a try. The deciding factor was the ability to create my own [[flags|flag]] (a variant of a flag I have actually made for myself in real life).  
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I came to this site in [[real world|real life]] accidentally, but it intrigued me enough to give it a try. The deciding factor was the ability to create my own [[flag]] (a variant of a flag I have actually made for myself in real life).  
  
I try to take it "seriously" in the sense that I respond to issues, diplomatic overtures and communications as if they were real. What follows is both my real life and game attitudes and ambitions.
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I try to take it "seriously" in the sense that I respond to [[issue]]s, diplomatic overtures and communications as if they were real. What follows is both my real life and game attitudes and ambitions.
  
  
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I'm not sure about what [[region]], if any, to join but this site has helped me create a shortlist after reading some of the entries. I take selecting the region I join seriously and consider my values when doing so.
 
I'm not sure about what [[region]], if any, to join but this site has helped me create a shortlist after reading some of the entries. I take selecting the region I join seriously and consider my values when doing so.
  
Although I have been a member of the [[United Nations]] since March 3, 2005, I'm still not sure if that's wise since I have so little say in the policies which will change my [[UN Category]]. Fortunately, the first proposal on the UN World Organ Donor Centre reflects my values and will have only a moderate effect if adopted.
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I joined the [[United Nations]] on March 3, 2005, after some hesitation and deliberation. I was pleased to support, promote and vote for the my first proposal on the [[UN World Organ Donor Centre]] which reflected my values and will have only a moderate effect if adopted.
  
In real life as in NationStates, I try to think the issues through and make the most informed, rational, sensible and moderate decision based on the options presented. I realize it makes game play possible, but I dislike the fact that there are typically only 2-4 options per issues, when I often have a better option in mind that is not listed.  Since the UN crafts its own legislation to issues, this is a bonus.
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In real life as in NationStates, I try to think the issues through and make the most informed, rational, sensible and moderate decision based on the options presented. I realize it makes game play possible, but I dislike the fact that there are typically only 2-4 options per issues, when I often have a better option in mind that is not listed.  Since the UN crafts its own legislation to issues, this is a bonus. Clearly, I should draft my own issues and submit them to moderators instead of complaining. 8^)
  
Those who are interested in may ask me to draft a flag proposal, subject to [http://www.nava.org/Publications/GFBF/index.html North American Vexillological Association guidelines], my own values listed above and my sense of style.  I will make it within the pixel and kilobyte range the game demands, and send it to you as a JPEG or in some mutually agreeable manner.
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Those who are looking for a customized flag can send me a telegram. I'll draft one or more proposals -- subject to [http://www.nava.org/Publications/GFBF/index.html North American Vexillological Association guidelines], my own values listed above and my sense of style -- for your consideration.  I will make it within the pixel and kilobyte range the game demands, and send it to you as a JPEG or in some mutually agreeable manner.
  
  
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So far, I am not willing to go over to the role playing side, except when signing telegrams and the like. It's seems like too much time and effort for no personal payoff.
 
So far, I am not willing to go over to the role playing side, except when signing telegrams and the like. It's seems like too much time and effort for no personal payoff.
  
I don't want to join a region based purely on real world geography; I can do that already in real life, so why would I do that here.
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I don't want to join a region based purely on real world geography; I can do that already in real life, so why would I do that here?
  
 
I won't invade a region nor defend one indefinitely if barbarians are at the gates. I'm here to play, not be prevented from playing.
 
I won't invade a region nor defend one indefinitely if barbarians are at the gates. I'm here to play, not be prevented from playing.
  
I probably won't create a region because it takes too much time and effort, but I might if I get more into the game and see no existing region that reflects my values and goals.
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It is very unlikely I will create a region because it takes too much time and effort, and there are several existing regions which reflect my values and goals well enough.
  
 
I will not denigrate people, engage in flamewars, nor spend too much time defending myself against these.
 
I will not denigrate people, engage in flamewars, nor spend too much time defending myself against these.
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Je modèle mes politiques, choix et activités au NS au ceux de ma [[real life|vraie vie]], c'est-à-dire: politique centre-gauche, soutien de la démocratie, la politesse et discussions logiques.  
 
Je modèle mes politiques, choix et activités au NS au ceux de ma [[real life|vraie vie]], c'est-à-dire: politique centre-gauche, soutien de la démocratie, la politesse et discussions logiques.  
  
Je voudrais m'inscrire une région qui croit et garde mes croyances dessus, et ce Wiki m'a aidé de lister quelques régions possibles. Mais, c'est en anglais seulement. Si tu t'inscris à une région vraiment francophone et tu voudrais me donner de l'information sur elle, veuilles m'envoyer un télégramme. Du 3 mars 2005, je suis un membre des [[United Nations|Nations-Unies]].
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Je voudrais m'inscrire à une région qui croit et garde mes croyances dessus, et ce Wiki m'a aidé de lister quelques régions possibles. Mais, c'est en anglais seulement. Si tu t'inscris à une région vraiment francophone et tu voudrais me donner de l'information sur elle, veuilles m'envoyer un télégramme. Du 3 mars 2005, je suis un membre des [[United Nations|Nations-Unies]].
  
Si on a besoin d'un [[flags|drapeau]] unique, je peux les faire en se fondant des règles du [http://www.nava.org/Publications/GFBF/index.html North American Vexillological Association] (Société nord-américaine des drapeau, texte anglais, mais je peux te donner un sommaire français ou une traduction par Babelfish), mes croyances et le mode. J'en fais en accord avec les règles du jeux et t'en envoie par courriel.
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Si on a besoin d'un [[flag|drapeau]] unique, je peux les faire en se fondant des règles du [http://www.nava.org/Publications/GFBF/index.html North American Vexillological Association] (Société nord-américaine des drapeau, texte anglais, mais je peux te donner un sommaire français ou une traduction par Babelfish), mes croyances et le mode. J'en ferrais en accord avec les règles du jeu et t'en envoie par courriel.
  
Si on voudrais me battre ou insulter, je ne reste pas au NationsStates. C'est un jeu, pas ma vie; je ne voudrais ni donner des coups ni les accepter. Il est peu probable que je fasse une région qui garderais mes croyances; ce projet demande plus du temps et travail que je voudrais lui donner.
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Si on voudrais me battre ou insulter, n'oblie jamais que NationStates n'est qu'un jeu, pas ma vie; je ne voudrais ni donner des coups accepter ni insultes ni affronts. Il est peu probable que je fasse une région qui garderais mes croyances; ce projet demande plus du temps et travail que je voudrais lui donner, et il y a déjà quelques autres régions qui sont démocratiques comme mon pays.  Mon pays, ce n'est pas un pays, c'est l'hiver.  Ou, quand j'ai faim: Mon pays, ce ne'est pas un pays, c'est St-Hubert. (Merci, Bowser et Blue.)
  
 
==Zum Deutschesprächers==
 
==Zum Deutschesprächers==

Revision as of 16:47, 9 March 2005

The Community of Sober Thought was created in February 2005 for the NationStates game.

Cut-and-paste from NationStates entry (as of 9 March 2005)


UN Category: Inoffensive Centrist Democracy
Civil Rights: Good
Economy: Reasonable
Political Freedoms: Good

Location: pacific

The Community of Sober Thought is a large, safe nation, remarkable for its barren, inhospitable landscape. Its hard-nosed population of 26 million have some civil rights, but not too many, enjoy the freedom to spend their money however they like, to a point, and take part in free and open elections, although not too often.

The large government devotes most of its attentions to Education, with areas such as Religion & Spirituality and Commerce receiving almost no funds by comparison. The average income tax rate is 28%, but much higher for the wealthy. A large private sector is led by the Gambling, Beef-Based Agriculture, and Trout Farming industries.

Streakers swamp all public events in order to bare it all, the government is attempting to revitalize a gutted private sector, Animal Liberationists are regularly jailed, and a National Academy regulates grammar and usage. Crime is relatively low. Sober Thought's national animal is the fox, which is also the nation's favorite main course, and its currency is the thought.

Sober Thought is ranked 128th in the region and 99,688th in the world for Largest Automobile Manufacturing Sector.

Sober Thought
sober_thought.jpg
Flag of Sober Thought
Motto: We are extreme in our moderation
None / Aucun / Kein
Region Pacific (for now, probably International Democratic Union)
Capital Yes / Oui / Ja
Official Language(s) English, français simple, schlecht Deutsch
Leader Extreme Moderate a.k.a. / autrement dit / auch heißt APD
Population 26,000,000
Currency Thought / Pensée / Gedenken oder Denk 
NS Sunset XML

Why am I here

I came to this site in real life accidentally, but it intrigued me enough to give it a try. The deciding factor was the ability to create my own flag (a variant of a flag I have actually made for myself in real life).

I try to take it "seriously" in the sense that I respond to issues, diplomatic overtures and communications as if they were real. What follows is both my real life and game attitudes and ambitions.


What are my values

I am political centrist with a slight left-wing bent. In the NS and real life worlds, I usually rank political freedom first, personal freedom second and economic freedom third.

I prefer to disassociate myself from anti-democratic, communist, fascist, authoritarian and anarchic regimes, policies and alliances.

I am dedicated to civility and reason in all communications, and I expect no less from others.

I enjoy engaging in reasoned debate and dialectic; some of the best ideas come from the synthesis of others which would never have flown on their own.

I strongly believe in a secular state combined with wide religious freedom when it does not contradict the former. Although I am an atheist, I am not anti-religious and I can easily converse and find common ground with moderate religious believers (sometimes easier than dealing with harder core atheists).


What will I do here

I'm not sure about what region, if any, to join but this site has helped me create a shortlist after reading some of the entries. I take selecting the region I join seriously and consider my values when doing so.

I joined the United Nations on March 3, 2005, after some hesitation and deliberation. I was pleased to support, promote and vote for the my first proposal on the UN World Organ Donor Centre which reflected my values and will have only a moderate effect if adopted.

In real life as in NationStates, I try to think the issues through and make the most informed, rational, sensible and moderate decision based on the options presented. I realize it makes game play possible, but I dislike the fact that there are typically only 2-4 options per issues, when I often have a better option in mind that is not listed. Since the UN crafts its own legislation to issues, this is a bonus. Clearly, I should draft my own issues and submit them to moderators instead of complaining. 8^)

Those who are looking for a customized flag can send me a telegram. I'll draft one or more proposals -- subject to North American Vexillological Association guidelines, my own values listed above and my sense of style -- for your consideration. I will make it within the pixel and kilobyte range the game demands, and send it to you as a JPEG or in some mutually agreeable manner.


What I will not do here

So far, I am not willing to go over to the role playing side, except when signing telegrams and the like. It's seems like too much time and effort for no personal payoff.

I don't want to join a region based purely on real world geography; I can do that already in real life, so why would I do that here?

I won't invade a region nor defend one indefinitely if barbarians are at the gates. I'm here to play, not be prevented from playing.

It is very unlikely I will create a region because it takes too much time and effort, and there are several existing regions which reflect my values and goals well enough.

I will not denigrate people, engage in flamewars, nor spend too much time defending myself against these.


Message aux francophones

J'ai decidé de m'inscrire au NationStates, que je ai trouvé par accident, après j'ai lu que je pourrais faire un drapeau unique.

Je modèle mes politiques, choix et activités au NS au ceux de ma vraie vie, c'est-à-dire: politique centre-gauche, soutien de la démocratie, la politesse et discussions logiques.

Je voudrais m'inscrire à une région qui croit et garde mes croyances dessus, et ce Wiki m'a aidé de lister quelques régions possibles. Mais, c'est en anglais seulement. Si tu t'inscris à une région vraiment francophone et tu voudrais me donner de l'information sur elle, veuilles m'envoyer un télégramme. Du 3 mars 2005, je suis un membre des Nations-Unies.

Si on a besoin d'un drapeau unique, je peux les faire en se fondant des règles du North American Vexillological Association (Société nord-américaine des drapeau, texte anglais, mais je peux te donner un sommaire français ou une traduction par Babelfish), mes croyances et le mode. J'en ferrais en accord avec les règles du jeu et t'en envoie par courriel.

Si on voudrais me battre ou insulter, n'oblie jamais que NationStates n'est qu'un jeu, pas ma vie; je ne voudrais ni donner des coups accepter ni insultes ni affronts. Il est peu probable que je fasse une région qui garderais mes croyances; ce projet demande plus du temps et travail que je voudrais lui donner, et il y a déjà quelques autres régions qui sont démocratiques comme mon pays. Mon pays, ce n'est pas un pays, c'est l'hiver. Ou, quand j'ai faim: Mon pays, ce ne'est pas un pays, c'est St-Hubert. (Merci, Bowser et Blue.)

Zum Deutschesprächers

Ich kann nur ein klein bißchen schlecht Deutsch schreiben und lesen. Aber das ist richtung Deutsch, kein Babelfish Deutsch. Jeden Jahr, ich fliege nach Deutschland und besuche mein Bruder.

Ich bin demokratisch, bisschen sozialdemokratisch, und ich will eine Gemeinde des andere Staaten auch demokratische.

Ich möchte Spielen nicht Kampfen, mitsprechen nicht gegengehen.

Ich kann für einmann die Fähne order Flaggen machen. Bitte lesen North American Vexillological Association und fragt mir. Keine Nationalsozialistische, Kommunistische oder anderes Antidemokratische Symbols, bitte.