Difference between revisions of "NSWiki talk:Deletion policy"

Revision as of 23:04, 3 January 2005

Policy change: Speedy Deleting deceased nations / regions

One of the sysops is systematically going through Category:Nations and adding {{inclusion}} tags to nations that have ceased to exist. This adds a week-long discussion and multiple page edits to what really should be a quick and obvious decision. I'm recommending the following criteria for speedy deletion of deceased nations:

1. Nation is gone from NationStates. Search of The World fails. (Region page should also be checked if possible.)
2. NSwiki page was primarily created by a single author (Categorizations, minor fixes excluded)
   1. If wiki page was created as part of a regionmate's attempt to populate all nations in the region, automatic speedy candidate.
3. Content consists primarily of infobox and/or copy-pasted NS description.
4. Page does not include links to other articles specifically related to that nation (such as Characters or Capital Cities). Region and language links do not count. Check for a national factbook as well.
5. Nation does not have historic significance in NationStates. One quick way to check would be the What links here page to see if other articles have relevant cross-references to this nation. Such nations should be converted to Historic Nations per criteria on Talk:Halls of Memory.
6. Population (if listed at all) below an agreed-upon minimum (perhaps 500 million).

Please review this list and suggest changes or additions. → Fris Θtalk 15:08, 21 Dec 2004 (GMT)

I think it should also be mentioned that all of the above have to apply (excl. regional wiki creations, which possibly, can be put with the single author point as one or the other). Just for clarification, in order to mitigate potential misunderstanding. Rechze • (talk) 00:07, 24 Dec 2004 (GMT)

Considering the fact that it is quite common for deceased nations to be semi-immediately resurrected, I'd rather not speedily delete them, as it may be confusing for the players. I propose to simply introduce a separate template and separate deletion queue for deceased nations. -- Wilem Engelking 02:38, 4 Jan 2005 (GMT)

As my suggestion was made with the intent of making less work, and this proposal sounds like it would be more work, I don't think it's a good idea to create an additional deletion queue for this purpose. They should either be deleted by consensus, left by consensus, or speedily deleted. There is no need for more administrative overhead. If we want to leave all of them, then let's leave all of them ... but let's get consensus first.

The nations I want to see speedy deleted are the 5 million nations that come to the site, create a nation, find the wiki link, create a wiki article, and don't come back to either the game or the wiki after a few days. If we want to avoid going through this process for venerable nations, then let's add a population limit to the criteria. If there is no listed population, or the population is less than 500 million (~3 months of NS activity), I think they are safe to delete. Obviously, it is possible for a <3 month nation to make an impact on the forums, but I'd say that the majority don't. If a sysop makes a mistake, another sysop can undelete. Leave them, and we get unread, unwanted clutter. I just don't see the value to the game or to the wiki to have a bunch of dead little nations hanging around on the off chance that the author (who hadn't posted any real content per #3 above, by the way) might get confused on their return. → Fris Θtalk 03:04, 4 Jan 2005 (GMT)