Difference between revisions of "Talk:Hall of Ex-Nations"

Revision as of 22:05, 15 March 2005

Ya know, the hall being what is is, most of the entries are blatantly biased, and tend to overinflate some minor trolls whom people have had nasty experiences with.

On the other hand, it's technically quoting the people who wrote these entries.

In this context, does the neutral stance policy apply?

--Quintucket 02:36, 19 Oct 2004 (GMT)

value of NPOV in Ex-Nations?

Goober got most of these from a Forum topic. If he puts in a link, it's a quoted source, not NPOV, at least not as I see it. I've posted several pieces with my personal style showing in spades. I don't think we're trying to be as dry as Wikipedia - we don't have to be all things to all people. It's important to archive the bad with the good when it comes to making NationStates memories.

Besides, they're not around to argue, are they?  :p → Frisbeeteria Θtalk 02:51, 19 Oct 2004 (GMT)

"I don't think we're trying to be as dry as Wikipedia - we don't have to be all things to all people." <--- Oh goodie so it's okay then that the article I'm witing on Marathon while dry is more than a little caustic then. >:}

I think that I may try to tone down some of the overstatements of importance in some cases and at some point if nobody minds though.

--Quintucket 02:59, 19 Oct 2004 (GMT)

Communist Mississippi

I've protected the page because of edit warring involving CM's player going nuts whenever somebody tries to change his version of his entry. As noted by myself in an edit summary, this page is for names and brief reasons for DEAT; more lengthy discussion of the nation should go to that nation's page. Therefore, irregardless of the merits of the case I feel that this is out of line. I'll review the actual merits of the case tomorrow. --Goobergunch|? 23:16, 13 Mar 2005 (GMT)

I already made it clear what compromise I'd accept, I posted it here, but it was edited away...

Fabusism2005 11:54 pm, March 13th, 2005 in the year of our Lord.

Here, I can accept it being edited to this.

Communist Mississippi/DecisiveAction/VoteEarly. Deleted in early March for reasons which are controversial and still in dispute. If you wish to learn more and decide for yourself, the relevant links are all centralized at this link. http://s7.invisionfree.com/LOEL/index.php?showtopic=51

Fabusism2005 1:09 am, March 14th, 2005 in the year of our Lord.

I think maybe it needs to still be associated with linking, eg: 'Deleted in early March for reasons concerning linking which are [...]'. And also, a few differences in the second sentence; maybe: "The decision has been challenged by the player in question, largely on his forum, here." As in its current form it does not really seem encylcopaedic to me. Rechze • (talk) 07:51, 14 Mar 2005 (GMT)

Given that NSwiki chronicles NationStates activity, not Invisionfree boards, I don't really think a single player's extremely POV viewpoint on his own website constitutes "an acceptable compromise" for the encyclopedia-of-record of NationStates. Also, since the poster states that he will violate NSwiki policy as often as it takes ( SERIOUSLY, THE TRUTH WILL PREVAIL IF THIS NEEDS TO BE EDITED BACK TO THE TRUTH 1,000 TIMES A DAY, GIVE IT UP!) to keep his POV viewpoint as the sole presented opinion, I see no reason to incorporate any portion of these into the wiki. Threats and bluster should be denied, not rewarded. → Fris Θtalk 12:53, 14 Mar 2005 (GMT)

Duly noted; my stance on this issue is now rather ambivalent. But if anything the link would probably only really be appropriate in an external links section on the main article, with a short description of what it is or without. Rechze • (talk) 14:00, 14 Mar 2005 (GMT)

I won't tolerate folks using the article on deletion as a way to poke jabs at me, "Moderates ACTED DECISIVELY" (an obvious play on my old name "Decisive Action" and I won't tolerate that), nor will I tolerate them slanting things their way. I've stated what a fair compromise would be. It can either be accepted or we can keep arguing until somebody thinks of something better. Period.

Fabusism2005 9:06 pm, March 15th, 2005 in the year of our Lord.