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==Introduction==
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Welcome to '''User talk:Ceorana'''. Here you may communicate with me, [[User:Ceorana|Ceorana]]. Also feel free to [http://www.nationstates.net/Ceorana telegram me], especially for non-wiki-related complete.
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'''Welcome to [[User:Ceorana]] talk! Feel free to post whatever you want to say!''' ''(Oh, and sign everything with four tildes (<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>) so we know who you are!)'' [[User:Ceorana|Ceorana]]|[[User talk:Ceorana|<small>Φ</small>]] 02:51, 20 October 2005 (GMT)
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==FAC votes==
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Messages before the date listed on my signature below have been archived:
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'''''[[User:Ceorana|<font color="#000080">Ceo</font>]] \ [[User talk:Ceorana|<font color="#ff0000">rant</font>]] <font color=white>\</font> [[Special:Contributions/Ceorana|<font color=white>rave</font>]]''''' 01:15, 21 March 2006 (GMT)
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Please see [[/Archive]] for articles before this date.
  
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When voting on an featured article candidate, or in any vote, you need to update the vote tally manually. In [[Talk:Reformed Yugoslavia|this case]], you didn't, so there were no votes 'for' recorded in the tally.[[User:Gruenberg2|Gruenberg2]] 07:45, 20 October 2005 (GMT)
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== Deleting stuff ==
  
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Will remember to do in the future. Thanks! [[User:Ceorana|Ceorana]]|[[User talk:Ceorana|<small>Φ</small>]] 21:27, 20 October 2005 (GMT)
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Just a quick reminder: when you delete articles, remember to remove the discussion from [[NSwiki:Deletion]]. [[User:Gruenberg2|<font color="green">~Gruen</font>]][[User_talk:Gruenberg2|<font color="red">2</font>]] 14:11, 21 March 2006 (GMT)
  
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==Re: clean-up of [[violet]]==
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== CHDI for April - missing? ==
  
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I have removed the clean-up tag from [[violet]]. I believe that this constitutes a part of NS lore, and as such the admitted irregularity of the article is acceptable. I have commented as such on [[NSwiki:Cleanup]]. If you still believe clean-up is required, perhaps we could discuss it first: we don't want to be ping-ponging the tag in and out of the article.[[User:Gruenberg2|<font color="green">Gruen</font>]][[User_talk:Gruenberg2|<font color="red">2alk</font>]] 20:33, 6 November 2005 (GMT)
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Looks like you may have missed me on the April CHDI numbers. I don't want to approximate it or take your job away from you or anything, so I'd really appreciate it if you could put me back on the list. Thanks!  --[[User:The Philosophes|the Philosophes]] 16:51, 4 April 2006 (GMT)
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:I don't see what can be cleaned up. It's taken from elsewhere, and I don't see how quoted statements can be changed. Are we going to change each one to 'according to TSM, "..."'? I agree fully with your keenness to clean-up NSwiki: but I believe this article represents a special, allowable exception, similar to the [[Hall of Ex-Nations]]. There are many other articles on [[NSwiki:Cleanup|the cleanup page]] more in need of attention.[[User:Gruenberg2|<font color="green">Gruen</font>]][[User_talk:Gruenberg2|<font color="red">2alk</font>]] 02:21, 7 November 2005 (GMT)
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==[[Hogsweat deletion controversy]]==
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== Re: deletion of Main page ==
  
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This is a sensitive. Please be careful in your edits. [[User:Gruenberg2|<font color="green">Gruen</font>]][[User_talk:Gruenberg2|<font color="red">2alk</font>]] 19:12, 20 November 2005 (GMT)
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I realize that now, but I wonder why the talk is at Talk: Main page, not Talk: Main Page.
  
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Still, talk pages should only be protected for a short time. I think the person who protected Talk:Main Page Should know this. --'''[[Swilatia|<font color="red">sw</font>]][[User:Swilatia|<font color="green">il</font>]][[User Talk: Swilatia|<font color= "yellow">at</font>]][[Special:Contributions/Swilatia|<font color="blue">ia</font>]]''' 19:30, 5 April 2006 (GMT)
  
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==[[Sober Thought]] and semi-generic headings==
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but moving it has no effect. therfore this silly change should be reverted. --'''[[Swilatia|<font color="red">sw</font>]][[User:Swilatia|<font color="green">il</font>]][[User Talk: Swilatia|<font color= "yellow">at</font>]][[Special:Contributions/Swilatia|<font color="blue">ia</font>]]''' 12:12, 10 June 2006 (GMT)
  
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Due to the signature, this response could belong to somebody else; if so, send it on its way.
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==Vandalism on [[Jey]]==
  
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#Thanks for noticing; sometimes I wonder if I'm the only one who reads this pap. 8^)
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Yes, Ceo, they are just messing around with my page at school. '''[[Jey|<font color="blue">J</font>]][[User:Jey|<font color="red">e</font>]][[User_talk:Jey|<font color="green">y</font>]]''' 17:18, 24 April 2006 (GMT)
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#Thanks for caring enough to leave a message; few people do.
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#I'll try to explain my rationale (in my normal longwinded way 8^) )and you can tell me how it could be improved for my benefit and the benefit of the NSWiki community.
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When I named my three main branches of the armed services, I deliberately (for RP and for NSWiki reasons) chose abnormal titles.  E.g., the [[Air Service]] would much more commonly be called '''Air Force, Airforce, Air Corps, ''x''ian Air Force, Air Defence Force,''' etc.  This is especially true of the [[Land Service]], where '''Army''' would by far be the natural language (but rejected by me on philosophical and linguistic grounds).
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:Edit: Also, is there any way for you to block my page from vandalism, yet leave my account still able to edit? '''[[Jey|<font color="blue">J</font>]][[User:Jey|<font color="red">e</font>]][[User_talk:Jey|<font color="green">y</font>]]''' 17:54, 25 April 2006 (GMT)
  
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My main entry for all the armed forces is at [[Community Defence Forces]], which incorporates something like your idea of prefixing each entry with "Sober Thought."  While '''Community''' is one of the dropdown options for national pre-titles, I've rarely seen it used.  In fact, my official GP pre-title is now  '''Gemeinde''' (a direct German translation) of Community and in keeping with my RP history of the country, a bilingual French-English country that splits the difference and uses German for certain official purposes.  The combination of "Community," "Defence" spelled with a C and "Forces" with a plural is highly unlikely to occur in any other NSWiki combination.
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::If you ban [[146.145.221.130]], will I still be able to access my account from the school computer? '''[[Jey|<font color="blue">J</font>]][[User:Jey|<font color="red">e</font>]][[User_talk:Jey|<font color="green">y</font>]]''' 23:39, 26 April 2006 (GMT)
  
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Now that I've gone completely insane and NS is becoming more important that RL (I'm not sure if a smiley or a frowney belongs here more), I've greatly expanded the entries for the Land Service, [[Naval Service]] and Air Service so that they need to be broken up. I have elected to use (where sensible and possible) each of the three armed services (and Defence Forces should that become necesssary) as the lead words for my articles.  So [[Air Service fighter]] is a reasonably distinctive title, certainly better than "Fighter" or even "F-1 Fighter" (which applies to my fictional fighter, but is an obvious designation for even a casual observer of military aviation).  Does this make sense? 
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== FAC vote tallies ==
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Do remember to update them when you vote ;) [[Special:Contributions/Gruenberg2|<font color="blue">~</font>]][[User:Gruenberg2|<font color="green">Gruen</font>]][[User talk:Gruenberg2|<font color="red">2alk</font>]] 08:54, 7 September 2006 (GMT)
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:Another reminder: [[NSwiki:Deletion]] exists, so please remove any articles you delete from that page. [[Special:Contributions/Gruenberg2|<font color="blue">~</font>]][[User:Gruenberg2|<font color="green">Gruen</font>]][[User talk:Gruenberg2|<font color="red">2alk</font>]] 14:39, 31 October 2006 (GMT)
  
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Would Community Defence fighter make more sense?  I was trying to get all the army articles to file together (so far, they all have numbers as the lead character), the navy ('''Community Vessel Destroyer|Community Vessel]]''' series, and perhaps one or two in the future with "Naval Service" as the first two leading words of several in the whole article title) and the air force (which caused the whole issue in the first place).  But just as easily I could have all the unified services' components interfile (e.g., [[Air Service fighter|Community Defence fighter]], Community Defence land formations [awkward and ambiguous meaning of the article I would like to eventually create, namely '''Land Service formations'''], [[Community Vessel Frigate|Community Defence frigate]]).
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== Adoki deletion ==
  
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I am sincerely interested in hearing your opinion and getting advice. I have already had article naming issues; when I started this family of scores of pages, I never imagined I'd have more than one so I used the one-page nation template instead of the factbook one. Then I made a page for my [[real world]] self. Then I added some others, and pretty soon the main page became '''Sober Thought fictional''' which gummed up the works with NSEconomy (because the page name did not exactly match the NS country name). I also called one of my provinces [[North Island]], which was then usurped by a country of the same name.  So I left the country at the main page and put a pointer to other meanings, i.e., [[North Island (Sober Thought)]] which is the preferred wiki way.
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Thanks for restoring [[Adoki]]. I am a bit concerned about why you deleted it though. While there may have been some speedy deletion criteria it met, it didn't meet many of the other criteria for speedy deletion. The wiki article had its original population in it, but Adoki actually departed from the game at a significant population. Lots of pages linked to it, and it wasn't just a copy and paste of the nation text from the webgame along with an infobox. It has a category of a dozen or so related articles. It is my understanding that an article which is linked to by pages not written by the same author, which isn't a copy and paste / trivial article, doesn't qualify for speedy deletion at all. Finally, while "Adoki" no longer exists, it is now represented in a new puppet "The Allied States of Commonwealth Ambara" (see: [[Commonwealth of Peoples]]), although in fairness only those following [[User:Owain]]'s roleplaying could be expected to know that. --[[User:Pantocratoria|Pantocratoria]] 03:18, 21 November 2006 (GMT)
  
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Please, I will give every consideration to any ideas you have.
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== IDU Cleanup ==
  
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And since you took the trouble to look at mine, I'll have a peek at yours too.  It seems a shame to let creativity wither on the vine away from public view.
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A cartographer is a map maker, a vexillogist is a flag maker.
  
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Thanks again for your help.
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== About [[Canada]] ==
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It seems you've placed an ad concerning, "unverifiable or subjective content that seems to have been included for the purpose of promoting the region."
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I disagree and would like to kindly ask what section are you referring to in an attempt to correct the text.
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I would be lying if I said it didn't pain me greatly to be publicly accused of impartiality after having dedicated so much time to creating an attractive and pleasant series of Wiki documents.
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[[Canada6]]
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== TheUnitedStatesof_America and the Christianity article ==
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[[User:TheUnitedStatesof_America]] has added a large section to the [[Christianity]] article which amounts to, at best, an apologetic for a fundamentalist Christian sect. It reads almost word for word like the last brochure I had thrust into my hands by crazy people in King George Square. It is highly POV and has no value as encyclopedic content. Is there a way to stop this user editing this particular article? --[[User:Pantocratoria|Pantocratoria]] 02:40, 29 December 2006 (GMT)
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: I've blocked the user for six months for violating the vandalism convention. (( [[User:Pacitalia|<font color="navy">Paci</font>]][[User_talk:Pacitalia|<font color="green">'''talk'''</font>]][[User:Pacitalia|<font color="red">ia</font>]] )) <small>Time sent:</small> 03:47, 29 December 2006 (GMT)
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== About [[Canada]] again ==
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Since you have not replied, I'm removing the tag.
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[[Canada6]]

Latest revision as of 10:04, 25 October 2007

Welcome to User talk:Ceorana. Here you may communicate with me, Ceorana. Also feel free to telegram me, especially for non-wiki-related complete.

Messages before the date listed on my signature below have been archived: 

Ceo \ rant \ rave 01:15, 21 March 2006 (GMT)
Please see /Archive for articles before this date.

Deleting stuff

Just a quick reminder: when you delete articles, remember to remove the discussion from NSwiki:Deletion. ~Gruen2 14:11, 21 March 2006 (GMT)

CHDI for April - missing?

Looks like you may have missed me on the April CHDI numbers. I don't want to approximate it or take your job away from you or anything, so I'd really appreciate it if you could put me back on the list. Thanks! --the Philosophes 16:51, 4 April 2006 (GMT)

Re: deletion of Main page

I realize that now, but I wonder why the talk is at Talk: Main page, not Talk: Main Page.

Still, talk pages should only be protected for a short time. I think the person who protected Talk:Main Page Should know this. --swilatia 19:30, 5 April 2006 (GMT)

but moving it has no effect. therfore this silly change should be reverted. --swilatia 12:12, 10 June 2006 (GMT)

Vandalism on Jey

Yes, Ceo, they are just messing around with my page at school. Jey 17:18, 24 April 2006 (GMT)

Edit: Also, is there any way for you to block my page from vandalism, yet leave my account still able to edit? Jey 17:54, 25 April 2006 (GMT)
If you ban 146.145.221.130, will I still be able to access my account from the school computer? Jey 23:39, 26 April 2006 (GMT)

FAC vote tallies

Do remember to update them when you vote ;) ~Gruen2alk 08:54, 7 September 2006 (GMT)

Another reminder: NSwiki:Deletion exists, so please remove any articles you delete from that page. ~Gruen2alk 14:39, 31 October 2006 (GMT)

Adoki deletion

Thanks for restoring Adoki. I am a bit concerned about why you deleted it though. While there may have been some speedy deletion criteria it met, it didn't meet many of the other criteria for speedy deletion. The wiki article had its original population in it, but Adoki actually departed from the game at a significant population. Lots of pages linked to it, and it wasn't just a copy and paste of the nation text from the webgame along with an infobox. It has a category of a dozen or so related articles. It is my understanding that an article which is linked to by pages not written by the same author, which isn't a copy and paste / trivial article, doesn't qualify for speedy deletion at all. Finally, while "Adoki" no longer exists, it is now represented in a new puppet "The Allied States of Commonwealth Ambara" (see: Commonwealth of Peoples), although in fairness only those following User:Owain's roleplaying could be expected to know that. --Pantocratoria 03:18, 21 November 2006 (GMT)

IDU Cleanup

A cartographer is a map maker, a vexillogist is a flag maker.

About Canada

It seems you've placed an ad concerning, "unverifiable or subjective content that seems to have been included for the purpose of promoting the region."

I disagree and would like to kindly ask what section are you referring to in an attempt to correct the text.

I would be lying if I said it didn't pain me greatly to be publicly accused of impartiality after having dedicated so much time to creating an attractive and pleasant series of Wiki documents.

Canada6

TheUnitedStatesof_America and the Christianity article

User:TheUnitedStatesof_America has added a large section to the Christianity article which amounts to, at best, an apologetic for a fundamentalist Christian sect. It reads almost word for word like the last brochure I had thrust into my hands by crazy people in King George Square. It is highly POV and has no value as encyclopedic content. Is there a way to stop this user editing this particular article? --Pantocratoria 02:40, 29 December 2006 (GMT)

I've blocked the user for six months for violating the vandalism convention. (( Pacitalkia )) Time sent: 03:47, 29 December 2006 (GMT)

About Canada again

Since you have not replied, I'm removing the tag. Canada6

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