Difference between revisions of "Talk:Eireann Shamrock"

Revision as of 22:27, 2 February 2005

Protection discussion

Eireann Shamrock has been protected against further editing. This is due to continued edits by a variety of IP users, noteably User:207.237.104.148 (talk), User:172.174.141.201 (talk), User: 70.186.67.165 (talk) and User:Irelands own (talk), all replacing approximately the same POV edits on the page. While it is impossible to be certain, it appears to be the work of a single user. Despite multiple edits, the changes have never been discussed as requested.

Protecting until consensus is reached. → Fris Θtalk 22:59, 31 Jan 2005 (GMT)

• There is a real tug of war going on with this page!!! - (unsigned edit by User:217.114.165.34)

Yeah, well I'm pretty happy with the current version... Prodigal Fenian / Eire Shamrock himself comes on here and amends it to make it read obviously a hell of a lot more favourably than it currently does... I don't know how you would suggest getting consensus!

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This page is a gross violation of all that the Nationstates Wikipedia stands for. Clearly more than one person had edited this, as not only Prodigal Fenian/ Eire Shamrock edits it, but others that like this nation have also helped out. There is supposedly a neutrality/non bias aspect to Wikipedia, yet this entry and the initial entry on ES/PF were and are completely biased against him! There are several parts to this that are extremely controversial, the first being that PF/ES is a villain to many, hero to few, and the part about how he may or may not have partaken in illicit substances when the man was simply outraged at what he considered a slight from moderators. This page must be re-written to be totally impartial as it is clear that both sides in this, the anti-PF as well as Pro-PF lobbies clearly have divergent views on this player. This current version, as well as the initial version are both a disgrace to what this Wikipedia stands for and should be re-written with an impartial view of PF/ES and not just this slander. Thank you

NSwiki is not affiliated with Wikipedia or the WikiMedia foundation. It just runs the same software as Wikipedia. Calling it a "Wikipedia" is blatantly wrong. Also, remind me to dig up some of the old PF/ES deletion threads when I've got spare time (as in the weekend....I've got too much homework this week). I find it tantamount to a retcon to argue that all of those many posts were simply a joke. --Goobergunch|? 23:09, 2 Feb 2005 (GMT)

What's a "Retcon"? You are clearly anti-PF/ES, and you wrote the original version of this slanderous commentary. There is no argument that those posts were for a joke, it's blatantly obvious they were, and written in a righteous rage at the blatant disregard for fair play many showed against PF/ES. It is clear that you should have labelled the entry you wrote about ES/PF as an opinion piece, instead of a matter of fact unbiased piece. It's clear from your writing that you have never dealt with ES/PF in the game, though your obvious bias against him is evident. We can all dig up the old PF/ES threads, they are quite instructional and to most non-partisan viewers prove that this nation has been unfairly targeted.

Fixed the Retcon wikilink. I didn't write the original version of this article, as a quick check of the page history reveals, so I'll ignore most of your drivel. As for whether the posts were a joke...the comments in the threads by other players speak for themselves. One other thing....who the heck are you? Signing one's name is a Good Thing. --Goobergunch|? 23:47, 2 Feb 2005 (GMT)

The original article did not follow the rules that you made, nor does this current one. Many people that supported ES/PF have had to change this listing to give it more balance. Here's a quick recap of the first groundrule for writing an entry here: "General tips Use a neutral point of view (don't advocate a particular opinion, or use the wiki to advertise) "

How is lambasting ES/PF, and using a bullseye target, as well as calling him a villain, and stating that he was high on "illicit substances", and numerous other slanderous comments, with absolutely no balance at all, considered a valid entry? It mocks your hard work on this site. It is clear to anyone that knew ES/PF that he was a very passionate player, and tried to exact as much revenge on the mods as possible for hurting his beloved Ireland by leaving them founderless.

Apologies to you Goober, as you are not the biased fool behind the ES/PF postings, it appears that "Scolopendra" and "Frisbeeteria" are the main culprits in this.

Waterford