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== Welcome ==
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Welcome to my talk page! Please leave a new comment by clicking the + button above, or to add a comment to an existing section, click "edit this page" above. Thanks for visiting. <font color=red>'''''Please do not leave me any messages about the max_questions errors. I know just as much as you do about it, so posting a question here won't help. Sorry, guys.'''''</font>
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==Navigation Template==
  
[[User:Pacitalia|Pacitalia]]|[[User talk:Pacitalia|talk2me]] 23:04, 13 September 2005 (GMT)
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Do you know of any manner to convert a standard wikipedia navagation template onto nswiki? Specifically, I want to create a navigation with columns template for usage within an info box, in a manner identical to what the wikipedia European Union page has. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks. - [[User:Newfelix|Newfelix]] 00:48, 6 March 2007 (GMT)
  
== Ambassadors ==
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== Info box format ==
  
Thanks for changing the ambassadors. I had a few more to do but then I got all lazy and apathetic and forgot about it >_< Going to have to post there, too. Stupid RL. :P --[[User:Knootoss||Knoot]]|[[User talk:Knootoss|KNOO<small>talk</small>]] 08:42, 2 November 2005 (GMT)
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Would you mind if I copied the format you use for your nation [[Pacitalia]] for my nation?-[[User:Dannistaan|Dannistaan]] 00:08, 30 July 2006 (GMT)
  
==Talk:Main Page==
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== Knoot ==
  
I agree with your decision to protect it for now. There hadn't been any discussion since Matsu's comment, and I've reverted it maybe five times in the last couple of weeks. My suggestion would be to make it a protected redirect to another page. [[User:Gruenberg2|<font color="green">Gruen</font>]][[User_talk:Gruenberg2|<font color="red">2alk</font>]] 08:06, 21 November 2005 (GMT)
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If you're going to demote somebody due to prolonged inactivity, do me a favor and please let me know about it next time rather than letting me find out from the log. Also, a message on [[User talk:Knootoss]] probably wouldn't have gone amiss. --[[User:Goobergunch]]|[[User talk:Goobergunch|?]] 09:39, 1 August 2006 (GMT)
:A simple suggestion would be to create a mirror page at [[Main page]], and change [[Talk:Main Page]] into a protected redirect to that talk page. Since the vandalism seems largely to be limited to Meta Pages, I would have thought the new page would be far safer. [[User:Gruenberg2|<font color="green">Gruen</font>]][[User_talk:Gruenberg2|<font color="red">2alk</font>]] 13:52, 26 November 2005 (GMT)
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==Category Linking==
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: Understandable, as I haven't been particularly active lately; however, unless I'm on an announced vacation I'm pretty much always lurking in the background. :) --[[User:Goobergunch]]|[[User talk:Goobergunch|?]] 18:46, 2 August 2006 (GMT)
Thanks for your help. ~ ''[[User:Ceorana|Ceo]]|[[User talk:Ceorana|<small>squawk</small>]]'' 03:21, November 23, 2005 (GMT)
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:<s>But wait...I tried it and it doesn't work...? ~ ''[[User:Ceorana|Ceo]]|[[User talk:Ceorana|<small>squawk</small>]]'' 03:27, November 23, 2005 (GMT)</s>
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::Never mind; I didn't realize I was suppose to leave the colon in! ~ ''[[User:Ceorana|Ceo]]|[[User talk:Ceorana|<small>squawk</small>]]'' 03:36, November 23, 2005 (GMT)
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== InfoBox ==
  
==[[Sober Thought]], accidental delinquent and author of [[currency]], [[currency survey]], &c.==
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Your user thing that says you are proud to be canadian etc, etc. Loads of you have these but there are no public templates to use. Could you please direct me in finding these. [[Niploma]].
I did a massive rewrite of the '''currency survey''' article.  I had my own material to add, data to massage, etc., but I also took your suggestion to heart. I have mixed feelings about this, as it makes it less colourful and defeats the stated purpose of showing outsiders why I did things the may I did and made correct (or not assumptions) before I did the survey. Furthermore, relying on third person, impersonal or passively constructed sentences always seemed worse to me. One benefit was that I got to see how wordy it was and chop it down to a more sensible length, despite the restrictions imposed by reducing selfreferences.
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However, a wiki is a wiki, and I don't want to add to the renegade reputation I have apparently been earning without trying to or even being aware of it.  What would you think about moving the conclusions pseudo-section (the second through fifth or so paragraphs, which appear before any ==Section==) to the main article on Currency? 
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== Your User Template ==
  
Considering there was nothing on currency to begin with, I think even prelim results are worth having in the main article; we can change them if or when somebody does another survey (or, as I have suggested, combines several regional surveys). Imperfect knowledge can be made less imperfect, especially when people look and say "Hah!  I could do better than that!" and they do. That's what go me into it in the first place. 8^)
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I erm..."borrowed" your user template for [[User:Myroria|My User Page]]. If you didn't want it there, I'll remove it.[[User:Myroria|The Aristocratic Imperium of Myroria]] 00:06, 3 August 2006 (GMT)
  
Really, I'm a cooperative and wiki kind of guy just trying to do the right thing.
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== Party Symbols ==
  
[[User:Sober Thought|Sober Thought]] 05:08, 23 November 2005 (GMT)
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I take it that you have created the symbols of the political parties in Pacitalia. They are extremely good. How did you do that?! [[User:Mr. Johansson|Llanawar]] 14:10, 29 August 2006 (GMT)
==Vandalism==
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There was vandalism today at [[Help talk:Contents]], which was created with linkspam. Since I can't delete it, I "reverted" it by blanking it, which was what it was before the linkspam. Was that the right thing to do? Do I need to report it somewhere? Thanks. &rarr; ''[[User:Ceorana|Ceo]]|[[User talk:Ceorana|<small>squawk</small>]]'' 04:34, November 25, 2005 (GMT)
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:Your nation page was vandalised today. I reverted, and have kicked the user onto an infinite ban. I appreciate we usually go for shorter ban lengths for isolated linkspamming, but wiping a FAC seemed especially malicious. If you're feeling charitable, you can of course downgrade the ban length; I can't say I'm inclined to do so, though. [[User:Gruenberg2|<font color="green">Gruen</font>]][[User_talk:Gruenberg2|<font color="red">2alk</font>]] 19:25, 1 December 2005 (GMT)
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==Preview template==
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== [[User:Aridd]] ==
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Given you are the more active of the two bureaucrats, your weighing in on [[User:Aridd|Aridd's]] [[NSwiki:Admin nominations#Aridd (2/0/0)|nomination for sysop]] would be appreciated. There are only two votes, but it doesn't appear there will be any more. Is that sufficient to justify his being elevated? [[Special:Contributions/Gruenberg2|<font color="blue">~</font>]][[User:Gruenberg2|<font color="green">Gruen</font>]][[User talk:Gruenberg2|<font color="red">2alk</font>]] 13:43, 23 September 2006 (GMT)
  
[[User:Ceorana|Ceorana]] started the page; he felt the original template looked too awkward. By doing it at a new namespace, it's easier to delete if no consensus supporting the new template is reached. [[User:Gruenberg2|<font color="green">Gruen</font>]][[User_talk:Gruenberg2|<font color="red">2alk</font>]] 11:41, 2 December 2005 (GMT)
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== Re: Promotion ==
  
== Renaming articles ==
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Thanks! I've signed the Admin Guide. [[User:Aridd|Aridd]] 10:29, 30 September 2006 (GMT)
  
I moved your articles Corporation Types in Pacitalia, PBC Pictoral History, and Pacitalian History to the correct capitalizations [[Corporation types in Pacitalia]], [[PBC pictoral history]], and [[Pacitalian history]]. Would it also be correct to move [[Carta Proposera di Liberta]] to the correct spelling “Carta Proposera di Libertà”? (If not, would it also be ''incorrect'' to create articles like [[Khrusáestos]], transliterated from [[Greek]] Χρυσάεστος?) —[[User:Commerce Heights|Commerce Heights]] 06:30:05, 2005-12-11 (GMT)
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== Re: Important ==
*I hope Paci will forgive me for hijacking his talk page for a moment...why not just go ahead and create [[Χρυσάεστος]] and make [[Khrusáestos]] a redirect to it?  As far as I'm aware, it would work perfectly fine. --[[User:Bedistan|Bedistan]] <small>[[Noterelenda|(]][[User talk:Bedistan|jon seplab]][[Noterelenda|)]]</small> 09:15:18, 2005-12-11 (GMT)
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:*The articles have to be linkable with Latin script, so a link to a page with a Greek name would not work. Thanks, by the way, CH. :) --[[User:Pacitalia|<font color="navy">Paci</font>]][[User_talk:Pacitalia|<font color="green">'''talk'''</font>]][[User:Pacitalia|<font color="red">ia</font>]] 20:19, 11 December 2005 (GMT)
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::*So, that doesn’t answer my original question…does [[Carta Proposera di Liberta]] belong at [[Carta Proposera di Libertà]]? Or perhaps it even belongs at [[Guaranteed Rights and Liberties Charter of Pacitalia]]—does [[Wikipedia:Wikipedia:Naming conventions (use English)]] apply here? —[[User:Commerce Heights|Commerce Heights]] 20:33:57, 2005-12-11 (GMT)
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:::*There could be a redirect from the English version of the name, but because it's known specifically by its Pacitalian name, it's fine - we don't follow Wikipedia Naming Conventions to the tee, as you can see, just for alphabet/script. So, basically, you can use a transliteration but not the actual script. Hope that made sense. --[[User:Pacitalia|<font color="navy">Paci</font>]][[User_talk:Pacitalia|<font color="green">'''talk'''</font>]][[User:Pacitalia|<font color="red">ia</font>]] 18:50, 12 December 2005 (GMT)
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== [[Slani]]ed article move ==
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Thanks so much for that notice. I can't believe I never signed it. '''[[Jey|<font color="blue"><sup>J</sup></font>]][[User:Jey|<font color="red">e</font>]][[User_talk:Jey|<font color="green"><sub>y</sub></font>]][[Special:Contributions/Jey|<font color="purple"><sup>°</sup></font>]]''' 04:00, 1 October 2006 (GMT)
  
Macabees and I were trying to move [[The Macabees]] to [[Second Empire of the Golden Throne]] (since the article refers to it as that—it’s sort of a strange situation, so maybe the move shouldn’t have been done at all), but he copied/pasted the content to the new location and replaced the original article with a redirect (ruining the edit history). I reverted the change to the original article, but since [[Second Empire of the Golden Throne]] now has content, the move can’t be completed properly. Could you help? —[[User:Commerce Heights|Commerce Heights]] ([[User talk:Commerce Heights|talk]]) 23:02:23, 2005-12-14 (GMT)
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== Just a note ==
:Maybe this comment should go somewhere else, but don't our [[NSwiki:Naming conventions|Naming conventions]] dictate that nation pages should have the page's title be "exactly as it appears in NationStates"? <font color="blue">''[[User:Ceorana|&rarr; Ceo]]\[[User talk:Ceorana|<small>squawk</small>]]''</font> 02:08, December 15, 2005 (GMT)
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::That works. <font color="blue">''[[User:Ceorana|&rarr; Ceo]]\[[User talk:Ceorana|<small>squawk</small>]]''</font> 04:53, December 15, 2005 (GMT)
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==Re: Your Immigration Level Article==
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Pacitalia=Fail :P [[User:Willink|Willink]] 14:58, 22 October 2006 (GMT)
That article you wrote on Pacitalian immigration statuses has basically been cut and pasted for the nation of [[Soviet Union]]. I don't know if that's legal, but I figured you might want to know about it: [[Soviet Federative Transfer Status Level (Immigration)]]. <font color="blue">''[[User:Ceorana|&rarr; Ceo]]\[[User talk:Ceorana|<small>squawk</small>]]''</font> 05:06, December 16, 2005 (GMT)
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I must second that-okie
  
Allow me to quote you. From my "talk page [sic]":
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== My username ==
>Rather than simply deleting the content of your pages, you should ask
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>for them to be deleted, by adding {{inclusion}} tags.Gruenberg2 07:35,
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>26 October 2005 (GMT)
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I did so, and now you're saying:  
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Is it possible to change from "Omigodtheykilledkenny" to just plain "Kenny"? [[User:Omigodtheykilledkenny|Omigodtheykilledkenny]] 20:55, 2 November 2006 (GMT)
>If you want these pages deleted, just put a speedy deletion tag up,
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== Resignation ==
>not inclusion dispute tags.
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I no longer have time to contribute to NSwiki as a sysop. I have therefore decided to step down. Please downgrade my permissions as appropriate. [[Special:Contributions/Gruenberg2|<font color="blue">~</font>]][[User:Gruenberg2|<font color="green">Gruen</font>]][[User talk:Gruenberg2|<font color="red">2alk</font>]] 20:17, 21 November 2006 (GMT)
OK, so if that's what you wanted all along, (A) why not say so, and (B) why not explain how it's done. You can't get what you don't request, and I can't do what you won't tell me how to do.
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>you've made this problem a bit more messy than it had to be.
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== Wikiplagiarism ==
Then why not explain the hoops you wanted me to jump through correctly?
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Anyway, I notice you've removed the pages, *but not the associated "talk pages [sic]"*, so what's the whinging for? Though I notice that despite my polite request you've removed the content of the Category HQ.
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Yes, I have chhecked the block log, and seen that you have blocked [[User: Eurasia]] for "plagiarism". I have to ask, what exactly you mean by that. And I don't think Eurasia knows as there is no note on his talk page. I could not find the world plagiarism but in some nation articles, so I cannot find any official policies relating to it. --'''[[Swilatia|<font color="red">sw</font>]][[User:Swilatia|<font color="green">il</font>]][[User Talk: Swilatia|<font color= "yellow">at</font>]][[Special:Contributions/Swilatia|<font color="blue">ia</font>]]''' 12:14, 5 March 2007 (GMT)
  
Anyway, what do you want me to do to get rid of the "talk pages [sic]"? And to get rid of the "user page(s)"?
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:Well, I've talked to BL (good friend of mine at school), and he stated that he was blocked for...not being unique enough...it isn't that he copied or committed what we normally think of as "plagiarism", but BL didn't "add enough to the Wiki" or something.  Idk, though. -[[User:ChewbaccaDefence|ChewbaccaDefence]] 22:19, 5 March 2007 (GMT)
  
Please explain, don't just name; thank you.
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yes, but "not contributing much" is not a reason for blocking. no wiki has ever blocked some-one for writing short articles, or ones that are just an infobox. --'''[[Swilatia|<font color="red">sw</font>]][[User:Swilatia|<font color="green">il</font>]][[User Talk: Swilatia|<font color= "yellow">at</font>]][[Special:Contributions/Swilatia|<font color="blue">ia</font>]]''' 00:12, 7 March 2007 (GMT)
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:That's not exactly what I said to him, and believe me, I expected that my words would be strung around for a loop on this -- I said that not being unique defies the creed of NSwiki, but I did not say that it was the reason for his ban. I said he was banned for lifting content essentially word-for-word from other users' articles, clarified that there was a difference between doing that and sharing ideas or templates (which is, of course, fine) and admitted that the rules needed to be clearer but that blatant copying, anywhere within the Wikisphere, was an offence. I said that he was interpreting the free-documentation licence a bit too liberally and implied that he should read it to inform himself for future issues.
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:I also said that we, as staff, would try to make the rules around here a bit more explicit in the future to avoid this kind of confusion. I shortened his ban because he admitted he didn't know what he was doing was wrong, and assure you that I did everything possible to give him the benefit of the doubt. But he doesn't deserve anything from any of us for '''evading a ban'''. What is two weeks now when he will not be allowed on the Wiki for the rest of his life?
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:Finally, I have to say that the thing that irritates me most about this issue is no longer what offences he committed but the fact that he thinks he'll get sympathy for something he did wrong by making it a NationStates-wide  problem, posting a thread on Jolt. He thinks he should be given special treatment on this. In university, if you plagiarise, you get no second chances. You are '''expelled''' and it's put on your record that you cheated. Sorry to be blunt, but he needs to suck it up and move on. <small>'''(( [[User:Pacitalia|<font color="navy">Paci</font>]][[User_talk:Pacitalia|<font color="green">'''talk'''</font>]][[User:Pacitalia|<font color="red">ia</font>]] ))''' Time sent:</small> 01:09, 7 March 2007 (GMT)
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==Infoboxes==
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I like the infoboxes you use for your PMs; they look like the ones they use on regular Wikipedia. Do you mind if I steal the template for my president's page? With a few slight modifications, of course. :p [[User:Omigodtheykilledkenny|Omigodtheykilledkenny]] 01:47, 19 July 2007 (GMT)
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:Heh. OK, thanks! Nice edits on your Sorantanali article, btw. Chilling stuff. [[User:Omigodtheykilledkenny|Omigodtheykilledkenny]] 15:13, 19 July 2007 (GMT)
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== Where is my Nation? ==
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I wrote up a whole page on my nation saved it and now I can't find it when I search it. How can I access it?

Latest revision as of 10:18, 25 October 2007

Welcome to my talk page! Please leave a new comment by clicking the + button above, or to add a comment to an existing section, click "edit this page" above. Thanks for visiting. Please do not leave me any messages about the max_questions errors. I know just as much as you do about it, so posting a question here won't help. Sorry, guys. (( Pacitalkia )) Time sent: 07:15, 10 March 2006 (GMT)


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Navigation Template

Do you know of any manner to convert a standard wikipedia navagation template onto nswiki? Specifically, I want to create a navigation with columns template for usage within an info box, in a manner identical to what the wikipedia European Union page has. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks. - Newfelix 00:48, 6 March 2007 (GMT)

Info box format

Would you mind if I copied the format you use for your nation Pacitalia for my nation?-Dannistaan 00:08, 30 July 2006 (GMT)

Knoot

If you're going to demote somebody due to prolonged inactivity, do me a favor and please let me know about it next time rather than letting me find out from the log. Also, a message on User talk:Knootoss probably wouldn't have gone amiss. --User:Goobergunch|? 09:39, 1 August 2006 (GMT)

Understandable, as I haven't been particularly active lately; however, unless I'm on an announced vacation I'm pretty much always lurking in the background. :) --User:Goobergunch|? 18:46, 2 August 2006 (GMT)

InfoBox

Your user thing that says you are proud to be canadian etc, etc. Loads of you have these but there are no public templates to use. Could you please direct me in finding these. Niploma.

Your User Template

I erm..."borrowed" your user template for My User Page. If you didn't want it there, I'll remove it.The Aristocratic Imperium of Myroria 00:06, 3 August 2006 (GMT)

Party Symbols

I take it that you have created the symbols of the political parties in Pacitalia. They are extremely good. How did you do that?! Llanawar 14:10, 29 August 2006 (GMT)

User:Aridd

Given you are the more active of the two bureaucrats, your weighing in on Aridd's nomination for sysop would be appreciated. There are only two votes, but it doesn't appear there will be any more. Is that sufficient to justify his being elevated? ~Gruen2alk 13:43, 23 September 2006 (GMT)

Re: Promotion

Thanks! I've signed the Admin Guide. Aridd 10:29, 30 September 2006 (GMT)

Re: Important

Thanks so much for that notice. I can't believe I never signed it. Jey° 04:00, 1 October 2006 (GMT)

Just a note

Pacitalia=Fail :P Willink 14:58, 22 October 2006 (GMT) I must second that-okie

My username

Is it possible to change from "Omigodtheykilledkenny" to just plain "Kenny"? Omigodtheykilledkenny 20:55, 2 November 2006 (GMT)

Resignation

I no longer have time to contribute to NSwiki as a sysop. I have therefore decided to step down. Please downgrade my permissions as appropriate. ~Gruen2alk 20:17, 21 November 2006 (GMT)

Wikiplagiarism

Yes, I have chhecked the block log, and seen that you have blocked User: Eurasia for "plagiarism". I have to ask, what exactly you mean by that. And I don't think Eurasia knows as there is no note on his talk page. I could not find the world plagiarism but in some nation articles, so I cannot find any official policies relating to it. --swilatia 12:14, 5 March 2007 (GMT)

Well, I've talked to BL (good friend of mine at school), and he stated that he was blocked for...not being unique enough...it isn't that he copied or committed what we normally think of as "plagiarism", but BL didn't "add enough to the Wiki" or something. Idk, though. -ChewbaccaDefence 22:19, 5 March 2007 (GMT)

yes, but "not contributing much" is not a reason for blocking. no wiki has ever blocked some-one for writing short articles, or ones that are just an infobox. --swilatia 00:12, 7 March 2007 (GMT)

That's not exactly what I said to him, and believe me, I expected that my words would be strung around for a loop on this -- I said that not being unique defies the creed of NSwiki, but I did not say that it was the reason for his ban. I said he was banned for lifting content essentially word-for-word from other users' articles, clarified that there was a difference between doing that and sharing ideas or templates (which is, of course, fine) and admitted that the rules needed to be clearer but that blatant copying, anywhere within the Wikisphere, was an offence. I said that he was interpreting the free-documentation licence a bit too liberally and implied that he should read it to inform himself for future issues.
I also said that we, as staff, would try to make the rules around here a bit more explicit in the future to avoid this kind of confusion. I shortened his ban because he admitted he didn't know what he was doing was wrong, and assure you that I did everything possible to give him the benefit of the doubt. But he doesn't deserve anything from any of us for evading a ban. What is two weeks now when he will not be allowed on the Wiki for the rest of his life?
Finally, I have to say that the thing that irritates me most about this issue is no longer what offences he committed but the fact that he thinks he'll get sympathy for something he did wrong by making it a NationStates-wide problem, posting a thread on Jolt. He thinks he should be given special treatment on this. In university, if you plagiarise, you get no second chances. You are expelled and it's put on your record that you cheated. Sorry to be blunt, but he needs to suck it up and move on. (( Pacitalkia )) Time sent: 01:09, 7 March 2007 (GMT)

Infoboxes

I like the infoboxes you use for your PMs; they look like the ones they use on regular Wikipedia. Do you mind if I steal the template for my president's page? With a few slight modifications, of course. :p Omigodtheykilledkenny 01:47, 19 July 2007 (GMT)

Heh. OK, thanks! Nice edits on your Sorantanali article, btw. Chilling stuff. Omigodtheykilledkenny 15:13, 19 July 2007 (GMT)


Where is my Nation?


I wrote up a whole page on my nation saved it and now I can't find it when I search it. How can I access it?