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Free Land of Ysabol Help

Thanks for helping me with my page on The Free Land of Ysabol. I am completely new to both nationstates and Wiki, so have been fiddling with things all by my lonesome :) I have added Headers, and someone else (I don't know how to check whom) helped me make my page look much nicer. --ysabol 01:20, 11 Dec 2004 (GMT)


Stop me if I'm being a pest, but ...

You're advising members to use your nice DIV sections, but we really want to encourage people to stick with the simplicity of wiki markup. For instance:

Culture

versus

Culture

While the HTML method looks just a bit cleaner, it goes against good advice from the style guide:

It's easier for you and whoever follows you if you don't try to get too fancy with your markup. Even with markup as suggested here, you shouldn't assume that any markup you put in is guaranteed to have a certain appearance when it is displayed.
It is easier to display the NSwiki, easier to edit or add to its articles, if we don't make the markup any more complex than is necessary to display the information in a useful and comprehensible way. A useful encyclopedia is the first goal, but ease of editing and maintaining that encyclopedia is right behind it.
Among other things, this means use HTML markup sparingly and only with good reason.

→ Fris Θtalk 03:49, 11 Dec 2004 (GMT)

Administrator Guide

Since your adminship nomination is two days from being closed, you might want to review the Administrator Guide and acknowledge that you have read it and agree to follow it. I won't be able to set your rights +sysop until you have done so. --Goobergunch|? 19:01, 12 Dec 2004 (GMT)

Header Usage

I have to disagree with your edits on Teh great Kazham. I've been trying very hard to steer people away from the use of < br>, and the standard wiki TOC settings do that nicely. It seems to me an unnecessary complication to add HTML edits when simple linefeeds work just as well, and the wiki markup provides for adequate subheads that delineate that user's page nicely. I know you're trying to help and be a good sysop candidate, but moving away from the style guide doesn't seem to be a move in the right direction. The author seemed happy with my initial wikifying of the article, so I'm going to revert that page. → Fris Θtalk 23:24, 13 Dec 2004 (GMT)

I see your point, but given that each described an entirely different weapons system, I thought it was justified. Perhaps a Definitions list would have been better, or possibly supressing the TOC (via __NOTOC__), but subheads were also fine. In any case, I'm for simplifying the page layout while keeping the article looking sharp, with whatever wiki tools come to hand. Chalk it up to a stylistic difference.
I've noticed you removing copy/paste stuff from pages. While that goes along with Community decisions, I've been dropping notes on the User:Talk or article Talk pages instead of removing it. This is a young wiki, and I think we can afford a bit of copy/paste against the risk of driving users away over draconian editing. On articles that impact more than one nation or region I would agree with that editing policy, but nation pages essentially belong to the author. Unless they are abusing the privilege with extensive copy/paste (like Henrytopia), I'd leave them alone. → Fris Θtalk 23:59, 13 Dec 2004 (GMT)

Do you have access to the IRC channel? I'd much rather chat with you via the relative privacy of IRC or instant message than in this fairly public arena. Also, all sysops are channel ops on #nswiki. The rest of us (plus Wilem E) are all regulars there. Join us? → Fris Θtalk 00:02, 14 Dec 2004 (GMT)

Thanks..

Thanks for the hand on that edit with the LofR6MN link fix. I am fairly new to this and trying to get the ins and outs. :)

Thanks, but no thanks

As much as I appreciate the intent behind editing the presentation of my country's page, I'm hardly here to conform it to "standard" presentations. What's more, there's an entire "Government" section farther down the page and the overview shouldn't be divided with a small section on government as it was... I've rearranged whatever I thought needed it to my satisfaction, but please, as a general rule, while I know this is a "cooperative" project, the cooperation should probably come on pages that aren't for individual nations. It's not your typical wiki project, and so as you might expect I feel "entitled" (whether wrongly or rightly) to at least my one little carved out corner of this site that is my nation's info page. Thanks for the assist though. It's the thought that counts. --Galdago