Difference between revisions of "User talk:Rechze/Archive1"

Free Land of Ysabol Help

Thanks for helping me with my page on The Free Land of Ysabol. I am completely new to both nationstates and Wiki, so have been fiddling with things all by my lonesome :) I have added Headers, and someone else (I don't know how to check whom) helped me make my page look much nicer. --ysabol 01:20, 11 Dec 2004 (GMT)

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Stop me if I'm being a pest, but ...

You're advising members to use your nice DIV sections, but we really want to encourage people to stick with the simplicity of wiki markup. For instance:

Culture

versus

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Culture

While the HTML method looks just a bit cleaner, it goes against good advice from the style guide:

It's easier for you and whoever follows you if you don't try to get too fancy with your markup. Even with markup as suggested here, you shouldn't assume that any markup you put in is guaranteed to have a certain appearance when it is displayed.

It is easier to display the NSwiki, easier to edit or add to its articles, if we don't make the markup any more complex than is necessary to display the information in a useful and comprehensible way. A useful encyclopedia is the first goal, but ease of editing and maintaining that encyclopedia is right behind it.

Among other things, this means use HTML markup sparingly and only with good reason.

→ Fris Θtalk 03:49, 11 Dec 2004 (GMT)

Administrator Guide

Since your adminship nomination is two days from being closed, you might want to review the Administrator Guide and acknowledge that you have read it and agree to follow it. I won't be able to set your rights +sysop until you have done so. --Goobergunch|? 19:01, 12 Dec 2004 (GMT)

Header Usage

I have to disagree with your edits on Teh great Kazham. I've been trying very hard to steer people away from the use of < br>, and the standard wiki TOC settings do that nicely. It seems to me an unnecessary complication to add HTML edits when simple linefeeds work just as well, and the wiki markup provides for adequate subheads that delineate that user's page nicely. I know you're trying to help and be a good sysop candidate, but moving away from the style guide doesn't seem to be a move in the right direction. The author seemed happy with my initial wikifying of the article, so I'm going to revert that page. → Fris Θtalk 23:24, 13 Dec 2004 (GMT)

I see your point, but given that each described an entirely different weapons system, I thought it was justified. Perhaps a Definitions list would have been better, or possibly supressing the TOC (via __NOTOC__), but subheads were also fine. In any case, I'm for simplifying the page layout while keeping the article looking sharp, with whatever wiki tools come to hand. Chalk it up to a stylistic difference.

I've noticed you removing copy/paste stuff from pages. While that goes along with Community decisions, I've been dropping notes on the User:Talk or article Talk pages instead of removing it. This is a young wiki, and I think we can afford a bit of copy/paste against the risk of driving users away over draconian editing. On articles that impact more than one nation or region I would agree with that editing policy, but nation pages essentially belong to the author. Unless they are abusing the privilege with extensive copy/paste (like Henrytopia), I'd leave them alone. → Fris Θtalk 23:59, 13 Dec 2004 (GMT)

Do you have access to the IRC channel? I'd much rather chat with you via the relative privacy of IRC or instant message than in this fairly public arena. Also, all sysops are channel ops on #nswiki. The rest of us (plus Wilem E) are all regulars there. Join us? → Fris Θtalk 00:02, 14 Dec 2004 (GMT)

Thanks..

Thanks for the hand on that edit with the LofR6MN link fix. I am fairly new to this and trying to get the ins and outs. :)

Thanks, but no thanks

As much as I appreciate the intent behind editing the presentation of my country's page, I'm hardly here to conform it to "standard" presentations. What's more, there's an entire "Government" section farther down the page and the overview shouldn't be divided with a small section on government as it was... I've rearranged whatever I thought needed it to my satisfaction, but please, as a general rule, while I know this is a "cooperative" project, the cooperation should probably come on pages that aren't for individual nations. It's not your typical wiki project, and so as you might expect I feel "entitled" (whether wrongly or rightly) to at least my one little carved out corner of this site that is my nation's info page. Thanks for the assist though. It's the thought that counts. --Galdago

Nation stub project

Rechze, let's limit nation-stubs to just those pages that have only basic infobox information. If they have any body description at all (Nationname is delegate to Regionname or Nationname is related to otherNationname), or if they've created and improved 'Leader' or 'Capital' links, or added a map link, that's new material. No need to stub either of those.

Since nobody but the nation owner can really improve them in any meanful way (with a few notable exceptions, such as nations with rich roleplaying histories), nation stubs are unnecessary. Goober created the nation-stubs with the intent of keeping track of bare-minimum nations only. If a simple infobox nationpage goes unimproved for more than a month, we can consider deleting it. When you add stubs to almost EVERY nationpage, you effectively remove the value of such a tool. We can just as easily look in Category:Nations. → Fris Θtalk 16:27, 20 Dec 2004 (GMT)

I think you've gone from overdoing it to underdoing it. What I meant above is if someone has created additional pages and linked them to their infobox (map, leader, capital, a unique national language), then an infobox alone is adequate for the page. If all they've done is invented a name for their capital and leader, that's not really content. I actually went through the list this afternoon and removed all the ones I thought needed removing. If you wanted to pick up where you left off, I think you're probably fine. → Fris Θtalk 02:37, 21 Dec 2004 (GMT)

Would you look at NSwiki talk:Deletion policy and see if you agree, please? I think we need to streamline this process, and you're an obvious 'interested party'. → Fris Θtalk 16:09, 22 Dec 2004 (GMT)

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Thanks for all of your help so far. I'm going to edit that tomorrow, as I was using another nation as a template for how I typed up mine.User_talk:69.242.140.110 (DemonLordEnigma).

Timestamps

I'm aware of said problem - I'm checking through the various MediaWiki mailing lists and BugZilla to see if I can work out a fix. If not, hopefully it'll be fixed in the next upgrade. --Goobergunch|? 16:45, 28 Dec 2004 (GMT)

redirects to categories

re: http://ns.goobergunch.net/wiki/index.php?title=Sports_roleplaying&diff=0&oldid=26555

Don't make redirects to categories if you can avoid doing so. Vilita appears to want to make all sports articles into categories, but Categories aren't articles. We should be moving content from category descriptions, not the other way around. See User talk:Vilita and Talk:Sports roleplaying. → Fris Θtalk 14:47, 29 Dec 2004 (GMT)

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I dunno — El Cid 22:13, 30 Dec 2004 (GMT)

thanks...

You made adjustments to my talk page... thank you?

Vertosa

Picture Formats on the internet

Thanks for trying, but there was no such file at that specific internet adress with that format. By changing the adress, it came up as a nonexcistant file. You have to make sure such a file excists before you type in an adress. ~Siesatia

Page deletion

Eredron

EDIT: Nevermind

Tables

"I have switched said new tables to wiki markup, and have added colours. You can simply change the colours or remove them if you don't like them, but I think they look better with colours. Compliments, Rechze • (talk) 06:11, 31 Dec 2004 (GMT)"

Thanks for your improvements - I guess I could have remembered the HTML tags. I look on the wikipedia table instructions and having used HTML before I just went with it. I now build my pages in Macromedia Flash... ah nostalgia... Muchas Gracias, Señor. IdioC- エドノ狂いtalk 18:37, 31 Dec 2004 (GMT)

Nova Berlin

Thanks for editing the lineout :)

--West Deutschland 13:50, 11 Jan 2005 (GMT)

Editing Dominion page

No problem on the personal info. If not for related issues lately, it wouldn't be on at all. Still learning the ropes here and all - figured since those were the pages being looked at, those were the most logical places to put some info.