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If you were to get an accout, you would have a user page, which is intended for informaton like that in Sober_Thought_real. Compliments, Rechze • (talk) 23:22, 11 Mar 2005 (GMT)

Then you could have all NS nation information in the article Sober Thought, as is conventional, and people would be able to find your user page by looking at the history of your nation's article. Rechze • (talk) 23:26, 11 Mar 2005 (GMT)

random redirects

I noticed that you created a redirect from North Pacific to The North Pacific. Did you know that North Pacific is in fact a separate region of almost 250 nations? The fact that no one has created a wiki page for it doesn't mean we should link it incorrectly to another region. Please be cautious when creating such links. I've removed it. → Fris Θtalk 02:17, 17 Mar 2005 (GMT)

Page Naming

A quick note: I've noticed that you're naming a lot of your articles very generically, like "Air Force". It would be better to name it something ilke "Sober Thought Air Force" or "Air Force (Sober Thought)", because "Air Force" implies that it's a generic page on all air forces that exist in NationStates, which is not the case. Thanks! ~ Ceo rant (or rave) 03:09, November 21, 2005 (GMT)

Suppose you had "Community Defence Forces Air Service" or put one of those italic banners at the top saying something like:

This article is about the Sober Thought Air Service. For general air defense forces, see Category:Armed Forces.

~ Ceo rant (or rave) 13:31, November 21, 2005 (GMT)

What you suggested is a perfect way to do it in theory...until you look at NSwiki:Naming conventions, which says not to use abbreviations in article titles. I think it would be fine, but you might want to consult someone who is more experienced with NSwiki than I am. Or you could just do it and see if anyone has a problem with it! ~ Ceo rant (or rave) 01:01, November 23, 2005 (GMT)

Yeah, but wiki style is also to use singular wherever possible -- something that English speakers are not generally used to and which NSWikipedians have freely ignored. I found some notes Gruenberg left me a month ago covering many of the same matters we've already discussed, and his/her/its (gender and IC/OOC preference unknown to me) national page is fantastic. I'll give it another couple of weeks among the three of us (and whomever else leaps in), then do one massive clean up.

And thanks again for; anything to drive up traffic on pages I've spent so many hours and so much effort writing and refining! If you're ever in the market for a flag or similar heraldic graphic, drop me a line via TG or Custom Flag Service]; I do requests.

Sober Thought 01:25, 23 November 2005 (GMT)

I made a template for your notice about it referring to Sober Thought on your Air Service, and took the liberty of putting it on the other Sober Thought armed services pages, which I have no problem with anyone doing anything to, seeing as it's your nation. The template is used by inputting {{STMD}} (stands for Sober Thought military disambiguation). ~ Ceo|squawk 03:43, November 23, 2005 (GMT)

Return-message on Sober Thought, Currency and Currency survey

Don't worry, you haven't earned a renegade reputation... yet. ;)

I was thinking we could move your currency survey to Sober_Thought/Currency_survey since you're the sole author, and the page Currency survey may be used for another survey down the road. Anyway, let me know what you think. It doesn't have to be moved there, of course, but it may be a better way to ensure that all that work is known to be yours. --Pacitalkia 06:32, 23 November 2005 (GMT)

Excellent. I prefer to be distinctive reasons other than malfeasance.

This is a good idea, and I think I'll do it tonight. And as I suggested earlier, I'll put the generalised conclusions (not tabular data, just rough fractions) in the currency article with a link to the new location for the currency survey article.

I'm still picking my brains for reorganising my whole category. I think it will wind up with ~100 pages (man, that looks weird when I consider that I only reluctantly made one RP page and even more reluctantly added what should have been a User: page from the start) with approximately even divisions of geo-political units (provinces, cities, physical geography), government and politics, and of course my belovèd armed forces (which started all the fuss in the first place).

I think the geo-political units could stand on their own (with occasional exceptions like North Island (Sober Thought) which can still be parenthetically qualified), no worries there. How many Schweindorfs (guess where in RL!) are people really going to create? 8^)

Government and politics as a bit trickier. My units of government tend to be pretty distictive even though most do not include Sober Thought -- who else is like to have a Minister of Community Connections? That would be doubleplusungood. Political parties are much tricker, since the major ones such as the Socialist Party and the Conservative Party are almost certain to be duplicated, while the Christian Unity Party and Parti hochelagais are bulletproof. I can live with direct entries parenthetically qualified where necessary, provided I or somebody makes dead-link disambig page for the generic term that gives no preference to any of the subsidiary specifics.

The forces plague my dreams, and not just because of the concern others have shown. There's the civilian political body that oversees them (Ministry of Community Defence and Vice Ministry of Military Defence), the Community Defence Forces as a whole (which I think people are finally agreeing is okay to leave that way with out adding "Sober Thought" as a prefix or suffix, then aspects of the CDF that apply across the board (my DOS file naming conventions use DF for their lead characters), aspects of the CDF specific to a particular service (LS, NS and AS, respectively), and the units and weapons of the CDF (sometimes used across two or three services, sometimes use in just one). I think using the intialism CDF for the latter two classes is the only way around it, and it makes the offending "Naval Service" into "CDF Naval Service."

But even the "Minister of Community Connections" doesn't sound right to me. Even if there is no risk of duplication, it seems like the article titles ought to be more descriptive.