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This is a place to talk about anything '''NSwiki related'''.  If the discussion is more appropriate on some other page, move it there. For example, if it is a question and answer that others may find useful move it to [[NSwiki:user questions|user questions]].
 
This is a place to talk about anything '''NSwiki related'''.  If the discussion is more appropriate on some other page, move it there. For example, if it is a question and answer that others may find useful move it to [[NSwiki:user questions|user questions]].
  
== Suggestion Box ==
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== Known Issues ==
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*[http://ns.goobergunch.net/wiki/index.php/NSwiki:Village_pump/Archives#NSWiki_bug NSWiki bug]
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*max_questions bug (see [[User:Goobergunch/max_questions]] for a non-answer)
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*[[NSwiki:Failed_uploads|Failed_uploads]]
  
=== Category Creation ===
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== Announcements, kinda... ==
The following Primary Categories are now available on the Main Page:
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I've created a [[Tourism]] page and a [[List of Passport Codes]] if anyone wants to contribute to those...--[[User:Einmyria|Einmyria]] 11:53, 27 October 2007 (GMT)
  
{{Main page toc}}
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== Help Needed ==
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For admin help, see [[NSwiki:Request_for_Administrative_Help]].
  
In addition to that, any nation that has multiple nation-specific pages should have a Factbook ([[:Category:Factbooks]]) so we don't have a bunch of unknown, uncategorized pages floating around the wiki. If most of your NS or NSwiki activity is based around a region ([[BookCrossing]], [[Myra|Projekt Myra]]) or an alliance ([[Coalition of Anti-Capitalist Economies|CACE]], [[Global Dominion of Dictators Against Democracy|GDODAD]]), make that your factbook instead.
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===Aaaaah My infobox died!===
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http://ns.goobergunch.net/wiki/index.php/Okielahoma
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Yeah i tried to change the colors to match my flag and kaput. Something snapped. Aaaah!
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Okie 21:29, 7 March 2007.
  
There are also another half dozen minor categories available in [[:Category:Roleplaying]], some of which may be superfluous or convertable to something more general (''Currency → Economics'' ?).  I'm thinking we shouldn't be adding any more primary categories (''or for that matter, secondary'') without discussing them here first.  I'd also like see it become official NSwiki policy. 
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Fixed. You put a newline where you should not have. --'''[[Swilatia|<font color="red">sw</font>]][[User:Swilatia|<font color="green">il</font>]][[User Talk: Swilatia|<font color= "yellow">at</font>]][[Special:Contributions/Swilatia|<font color="blue">ia</font>]]''' 12:26, 9 March 2007 (GMT)
  
Comments?  Questions? Suggestions? [[User:Frisbeeteria|&rarr; Fris]] [[User talk:Frisbeeteria|&Theta;<small>''talk''</small>]] 18:01, 29 Oct 2004 (GMT)
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*There is a new problem with the infoboxes for issues, nations, and resolutionsThey used to be right justified (standard to the way Wiki does things) but now they are all left justifiedCan somebody fix that? [[User:Mikitivity|Mikitivity]] 03:24, 11 April 2007 (GMT)
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:I'd like to see a voluntary limitation on the use of Categories.  The way I see it, almost anything related to your [[nation]]/[[region]]/[[alliance]] is fair game for a factbook, but the broader categories don't enjoy the same freedom.  For instance, if you have a history of Wars outside of NS roleplay, they can go in your factbook, but not in [[:Category:Wars]]Even though you [[roleplay]]ed every bit of your history, none of it should be added to [[:Category:Roleplaying]].  Those ... ummm ... ''Master Topics'' should be reserved for things that have a general relationship to the topic, and appeal to a wide variety of players and readersIf two nations rp a war on [[IRC]] or via [[offsite forum]]s, that particular war could justifiably be placed in both player's factbooks, but shouldn't be added to '''Wars'''.  Other categories like [[:Category:Sports roleplaying|Sports roleplaying]], might have a smaller but intense population ... but I still don't want to see every nation that participates in Sport RP added to the category.
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:The thing about categories is that we already have nearly two hundred of them, and the Factbooks are intermingled with the General Interest categories. If we start creating new Cats for every subdivision possible in this quasi-fictional world, no one will ever be able to keep up with them.  As the sysop self-appointed to categorizing all the lost articles, I appeal to you - please limit your categories, and don't add unnecessary categories to your articles.  Thanks. [[User:Frisbeeteria|&rarr; Fris]] [[User talk:Frisbeeteria|&Theta;<small>''talk''</small>]]
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http://ns.goobergunch.net/wiki/index.php/Friendly_Aliens this maybe different to the query above query but my infobox is f00ked and its the same for my comrade [[Roudland]] and maybe others. How can i change my page back to normal? [[User:Alliance|Baz]] 10:10, 11 April 2007 (GMT)
::What about [[:Category:History]]? If I create an article about an historical event, should I put [[:Category:History]] down the bottom as well as [[:Category:Pantocratoria]]? --[[User:Pantocratoria|Pantocratoria]] 10:49, 6 Dec 2004 (GMT)
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::: Virtually everything in the wiki is a historical document of some sort.  I'd leave Category:History alone except for articles that ''collect'' all the historical information in one page ... "A Short History of Pantocratoria", that sort of thing.  Most people put that on their main nation page, but for some it's an elaborate series.  I'd say, "one page => Category:History" , "Several pages => National factbook".  I wouldn't use both. [[User:Frisbeeteria|&rarr; Fris]] [[User talk:Frisbeeteria|&Theta;<small>''talk''</small>]] 21:01, 6 Dec 2004 (GMT)
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====Calendar Category?====
 
Maybe we can have a category for pages relating to special Calendar pages. Anyone else think this is a good idea, or am I just obsessing over creating categories? --[[User:Athamasha|Athamasha]] 18:53, 5 Dec 2004 (GMT)
 
:You're obsessing.  :)  I think there may be one more article in the whole wiki that mentions a national calendar.  Since we're trying to keep Categories limited to national factbooks and/or widely shared concepts, I don't see the need at this point. Maybe this discussion with bring dozens more out of the woodwork ... but I somehow doubt it. [[User:Frisbeeteria|&rarr; Fris]] [[User talk:Frisbeeteria|&Theta;<small>''talk''</small>]] 19:08, 5 Dec 2004 (GMT)
 
::Okay. This is why I ask instead of just going ahead... --[[User:Athamasha|Athamasha]] 22:52, 5 Dec 2004 (GMT)
 
  
==== WTF Category? ====
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===Infobox Link Gone Bad===
While categorizing some of our articles I occasionally stumble across a ''WFT is this all about?'' article. I usually drop a note to the author on their Talk page, but with anonymous editors that doesn't always work. The current batch includes [[Strange gas]] and [[Special material]]. Do we want a special category for those oddball articles that aren't really national or regional, except that in some crazy way maybe they are? [[User:Frisbeeteria|&rarr; Fris]] [[User talk:Frisbeeteria|&Theta;<small>''talk''</small>]] 20:57, 6 Dec 2004 (GMT)
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http://ns.goobergunch.net/wiki/index.php/Bercktesgaden
:Sounds good to me. Maybe then people can do research on them and try and figure out what they are. I would recommend calling it the "Mystery Pages" category or something rather than "WTF." --[[User:Athamasha|Athamasha]] 21:37, 7 Dec 2004 (GMT)
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My flag and seal refuse to link and its a valid page...--[[User:209.213.19.142|209.213.19.142]] 22:41, 14 July 2007 (GMT)
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:You put the share link rather than the direct link to your photobucket album. In the future use the direct link not the share link that photobucket gives you. I have corrected the links in your page so they work properly. [[User:John|John]] 00:56, 15 July 2007 (GMT)
  
===Population Updates... Well, not needed===
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===two pages?===
Topic moved to [[NSwiki:Community_decisions#Population_updates|Community decisions]]
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http://ns.goobergunch.net/wiki/index.php/UN_Member
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http://ns.goobergunch.net/wiki/index.php/UN_member
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hm[[User:Blacksmith|Blacksmith]] 04:23, 16 September 2007 (GMT)
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:Is there a "redirect" function on NSwiki like there is on Wikipedia?--[[User:Einmyria|Einmyria]] 01:32, 26 October 2007 (GMT)
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===League Pyramid===
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http://ns.goobergunch.net/wiki/index.php/Setinje%27s_Football_Pyramid
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It decided to shrivel and shrink...
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--[[User:64.136.164.35|64.136.164.35]] 21:58, 19 August 2007 (GMT)
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:Since the article has been replaced, I'm putting it up as a candidate for deletion.--[[User:Einmyria|Einmyria]] 01:32, 26 October 2007 (GMT)
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== Suggestion Box==
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=== On the table: Improvements and other priorities ===
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Safely said, the long-term goals of this site are to have five sysops on staff (since we have a sort of ''de facto'' shift rotation going on where we can provide round-the-clock monitoring of the site for vandalism, manual linkspam, policy violations etc.) I've posted a notice encouraging users to nominate others or themselves for the position (we won't discriminate against self-nominators as much this time) on the Main Page under Announcements.
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Our second priority thus far is updating the Main Page to reflect current MediaWiki code and updated designs. Our front page falls a bit flat in comparison to others: we have two suggested templates (see [[Talk:Main_Page#Main Page Makeover?|this section]] of the talk page for [[Main Page]] to view the ideas from [[User:Jey]] and [[User:Swilatia]]. Current opinion favours Swilatia's template but if you'd like to say your bit, do so there. I'd personally like to hold an open poll to select the new template, choosing between the two, or remaining as is. Thoughts? (( [[User:Pacitalia|<font color="navy">Paci</font>]][[User_talk:Pacitalia|<font color="green">'''talk'''</font>]][[User:Pacitalia|<font color="red">ia</font>]] )) <small>Time sent:</small> 02:18, 4 March 2007 (GMT)
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===Cuisine Category===
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Often many of the articles (and for good reason) focus on the political / military aspects of NationStates, but I wanted to suggest that we consider creating a category for cuisine that might help promote more cultural articles.  Any thoughts? [[User:Mikitivity|Mikitivity]] 00:09, 12 March 2007 (GMT)
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:Sounds like a great idea to me. I'm always in favour of ways to expand upon every aspect of our nations, especially outside of the political and military fields. I'm sure, considering what I've seen of some of the awesomely detailed nations out there, that some people will have some material to stick in there! [[User:The Charr|The Charr]] 01:24, 4 April 2007 (GMT)
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===Birthday Today===
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Is it possible to write a script that would search all of the character articles and randomly select a couple characters each day to link to on the main page who's fiction birthdays correspond with the calendar date?  For example the script would read all of the characters that have the "category:character" or its sub-categories and then today would grab a few to link to? [[User:Mikitivity|Mikitivity]] 05:37, 24 April 2007 (GMT)
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:That would be really cool, I hope that there is a way to do it! [[User:John|John]] 20:39, 24 April 2007 (GMT)
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::It's definitely do-able.  All the characters would have to categorize their birthdays exactly in the same manner.  It would then be categorized according to day, then month, then year.  The main page could very well point to the "day" category for birthdays.--[[User:Einmyria|Einmyria]] 01:46, 26 October 2007 (GMT)
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===Quotation Template?===
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I know that Wikipedia uses the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Quotation quotation template].  Is there some way this could be implemented here?
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[[User:Entsteig|Entsteig]] 04:25, 4 June 2007 (GMT)
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:Create it yourself, then you can use it immediately! There's no need to ask. If there's a purpose to be served in creating a template, just do it. [[User:Liverpool England|LE]] ([[Wikipedia:fr:Utilisateur:NSLE|WP]]) | [[User_talk:Liverpool_England|Talk]] 09:15, 5 June 2007 (GMT)
  
 
== Complaint Department ==
 
== Complaint Department ==
=== Can't Upload Graphics ===
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For complaints about vandalism, please go to [[NSwiki:Vandalism_in_progress]] and leave a report.
I can't seem to be able to upload any files. I keep trying to upload the electoral symbol of the [[Communist Party of Constantinopolis]], and I get the error: Could not copy file "/tmp/phpokoP44" to "/home/sc434/ns/wiki/images/c/c4/Communist_Party_of_Constantinopolis.gif". -- [[User:Constantinopolis|Constantinopolis]] 14:56, 15 Oct 2004 (GMT)
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:Uploads ought to work - I'll look into it when I get home.  Possibly a naming problem? --[[User:Goobergunch|Goobergunch]]|[[User talk:Goobergunch|?]] 17:57, 15 Oct 2004 (GMT)
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::Okay, it's a PHP safe mode problem, which I can do very little about.  I'd have to get Servage to fix it, which might not be that easy.  --[[User:Goobergunch|Goobergunch]]|[[User talk:Goobergunch|?]] 19:57, 18 Oct 2004 (GMT)
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One is able to place a picture -which is hosted from another web site- on an article, simply by putting it's address, like so (go to edit to see how I have done this if you do not know):<br>
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|  http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/b/bb/Battleship_Yamato_sinking.jpg
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== "What the slani hell?" Department ==
I belive this to be sufficient until the upload dilemma is resolved.
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[[User:Rechze|Rechze]] 12:39, 31 Oct 2004 (GMT)
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::Depending upon your PHP configuration, version and whether it's loaded as a CGI program/Apache module, you may be able to disable local safe mode by adding "php_value safe_mode Off" to your .htaccess file. I was unable to get it to work on my own webserver, but it is said to work elsewhere. --[[User:The Mindset|The Mindset]] 12:54, 26 Nov 2004 (GMT)
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:::Okay, I double checked my sources and it turns out this was a bug in an old version of PHP, so probably won't be able to help you. --[[User:The Mindset|The Mindset]] 20:06, 27 Nov 2004 (GMT)
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Archives of older discussions

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This is a place to talk about anything NSwiki related. If the discussion is more appropriate on some other page, move it there. For example, if it is a question and answer that others may find useful move it to user questions.

Known Issues

Announcements, kinda...

I've created a Tourism page and a List of Passport Codes if anyone wants to contribute to those...--Einmyria 11:53, 27 October 2007 (GMT)

Help Needed

For admin help, see NSwiki:Request_for_Administrative_Help.

Aaaaah My infobox died!

http://ns.goobergunch.net/wiki/index.php/Okielahoma Yeah i tried to change the colors to match my flag and kaput. Something snapped. Aaaah! Okie 21:29, 7 March 2007.

Fixed. You put a newline where you should not have. --swilatia 12:26, 9 March 2007 (GMT)

  • There is a new problem with the infoboxes for issues, nations, and resolutions. They used to be right justified (standard to the way Wiki does things) but now they are all left justified. Can somebody fix that? Mikitivity 03:24, 11 April 2007 (GMT)

http://ns.goobergunch.net/wiki/index.php/Friendly_Aliens this maybe different to the query above query but my infobox is f00ked and its the same for my comrade Roudland and maybe others. How can i change my page back to normal? Baz 10:10, 11 April 2007 (GMT)


Infobox Link Gone Bad

http://ns.goobergunch.net/wiki/index.php/Bercktesgaden My flag and seal refuse to link and its a valid page...--209.213.19.142 22:41, 14 July 2007 (GMT)

You put the share link rather than the direct link to your photobucket album. In the future use the direct link not the share link that photobucket gives you. I have corrected the links in your page so they work properly. John 00:56, 15 July 2007 (GMT)

two pages?

http://ns.goobergunch.net/wiki/index.php/UN_Member http://ns.goobergunch.net/wiki/index.php/UN_member hmBlacksmith 04:23, 16 September 2007 (GMT)

Is there a "redirect" function on NSwiki like there is on Wikipedia?--Einmyria 01:32, 26 October 2007 (GMT)

League Pyramid

http://ns.goobergunch.net/wiki/index.php/Setinje%27s_Football_Pyramid

It decided to shrivel and shrink... --64.136.164.35 21:58, 19 August 2007 (GMT)

Since the article has been replaced, I'm putting it up as a candidate for deletion.--Einmyria 01:32, 26 October 2007 (GMT)

Suggestion Box

On the table: Improvements and other priorities

Safely said, the long-term goals of this site are to have five sysops on staff (since we have a sort of de facto shift rotation going on where we can provide round-the-clock monitoring of the site for vandalism, manual linkspam, policy violations etc.) I've posted a notice encouraging users to nominate others or themselves for the position (we won't discriminate against self-nominators as much this time) on the Main Page under Announcements.

Our second priority thus far is updating the Main Page to reflect current MediaWiki code and updated designs. Our front page falls a bit flat in comparison to others: we have two suggested templates (see this section of the talk page for Main Page to view the ideas from User:Jey and User:Swilatia. Current opinion favours Swilatia's template but if you'd like to say your bit, do so there. I'd personally like to hold an open poll to select the new template, choosing between the two, or remaining as is. Thoughts? (( Pacitalkia )) Time sent: 02:18, 4 March 2007 (GMT)

Cuisine Category

Often many of the articles (and for good reason) focus on the political / military aspects of NationStates, but I wanted to suggest that we consider creating a category for cuisine that might help promote more cultural articles. Any thoughts? Mikitivity 00:09, 12 March 2007 (GMT)

Sounds like a great idea to me. I'm always in favour of ways to expand upon every aspect of our nations, especially outside of the political and military fields. I'm sure, considering what I've seen of some of the awesomely detailed nations out there, that some people will have some material to stick in there! The Charr 01:24, 4 April 2007 (GMT)

Birthday Today

Is it possible to write a script that would search all of the character articles and randomly select a couple characters each day to link to on the main page who's fiction birthdays correspond with the calendar date? For example the script would read all of the characters that have the "category:character" or its sub-categories and then today would grab a few to link to? Mikitivity 05:37, 24 April 2007 (GMT)

That would be really cool, I hope that there is a way to do it! John 20:39, 24 April 2007 (GMT)
It's definitely do-able. All the characters would have to categorize their birthdays exactly in the same manner. It would then be categorized according to day, then month, then year. The main page could very well point to the "day" category for birthdays.--Einmyria 01:46, 26 October 2007 (GMT)

Quotation Template?

I know that Wikipedia uses the quotation template. Is there some way this could be implemented here? Entsteig 04:25, 4 June 2007 (GMT)

Create it yourself, then you can use it immediately! There's no need to ask. If there's a purpose to be served in creating a template, just do it. LE (WP) | Talk 09:15, 5 June 2007 (GMT)

Complaint Department

For complaints about vandalism, please go to NSwiki:Vandalism_in_progress and leave a report.

"What the slani hell?" Department