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Category Creation

The following Primary Categories are now available on the Main Page:

In addition to that, any nation that has multiple nation-specific pages should have a Factbook (Category:Factbooks) so we don't have a bunch of unknown, uncategorized pages floating around the wiki. If most of your NS or NSwiki activity is based around a region (BookCrossing, Projekt Myra) or an alliance (CACE, GDODAD), make that your factbook instead.

There are also another half dozen minor categories available in Category:Roleplaying, some of which may be superfluous or convertable to something more general (Currency → Economics ?). I'm thinking we shouldn't be adding any more primary categories (or for that matter, secondary) without discussing them here first. I'd also like see it become official NSwiki policy.

Comments? Questions? Suggestions? → Fris Θtalk 18:01, 29 Oct 2004 (GMT)

I'd like to see a voluntary limitation on the use of Categories. The way I see it, almost anything related to your nation/region/alliance is fair game for a factbook, but the broader categories don't enjoy the same freedom. For instance, if you have a history of Wars outside of NS roleplay, they can go in your factbook, but not in Category:Wars. Even though you roleplayed every bit of your history, none of it should be added to Category:Roleplaying. Those ... ummm ... Master Topics should be reserved for things that have a general relationship to the topic, and appeal to a wide variety of players and readers. If two nations rp a war on IRC or via offsite forums, that particular war could justifiably be placed in both player's factbooks, but shouldn't be added to Wars. Other categories like Sports roleplaying, might have a smaller but intense population ... but I still don't want to see every nation that participates in Sport RP added to the category.

The thing about categories is that we already have nearly two hundred of them, and the Factbooks are intermingled with the General Interest categories. If we start creating new Cats for every subdivision possible in this quasi-fictional world, no one will ever be able to keep up with them. As the sysop self-appointed to categorizing all the lost articles, I appeal to you - please limit your categories, and don't add unnecessary categories to your articles. Thanks. → Fris Θtalk

What about Category:History? If I create an article about an historical event, should I put Category:History down the bottom as well as Category:Pantocratoria? --Pantocratoria 10:49, 6 Dec 2004 (GMT)

Virtually everything in the wiki is a historical document of some sort. I'd leave Category:History alone except for articles that collect all the historical information in one page ... "A Short History of Pantocratoria", that sort of thing. Most people put that on their main nation page, but for some it's an elaborate series. I'd say, "one page => Category:History" , "Several pages => National factbook". I wouldn't use both. → Fris Θtalk 21:01, 6 Dec 2004 (GMT)

Calendar Category?

Maybe we can have a category for pages relating to special Calendar pages. Anyone else think this is a good idea, or am I just obsessing over creating categories? --Athamasha 18:53, 5 Dec 2004 (GMT)

You're obsessing.  :) I think there may be one more article in the whole wiki that mentions a national calendar. Since we're trying to keep Categories limited to national factbooks and/or widely shared concepts, I don't see the need at this point. Maybe this discussion with bring dozens more out of the woodwork ... but I somehow doubt it. → Fris Θtalk 19:08, 5 Dec 2004 (GMT)

Okay. This is why I ask instead of just going ahead... --Athamasha 22:52, 5 Dec 2004 (GMT)

WTF Category?

While categorizing some of our articles I occasionally stumble across a WFT is this all about? article. I usually drop a note to the author on their Talk page, but with anonymous editors that doesn't always work. The current batch includes Strange gas and Special material. Do we want a special category for those oddball articles that aren't really national or regional, except that in some crazy way maybe they are? → Fris Θtalk 20:57, 6 Dec 2004 (GMT)

Sounds good to me. Maybe then people can do research on them and try and figure out what they are. I would recommend calling it the "Mystery Pages" category or something rather than "WTF." --Athamasha 21:37, 7 Dec 2004 (GMT)

Nation Page Originality

Is it acceptable for one's nation page to consist soley of an infobox and the text from its main nation page? Or does that make it an immediate candidate for deletion? --Athamasha 01:00, 11 Dec 2004 (GMT)

Population Updates... Well, not needed

Topic moved to Community decisions

Complaint Department

Can't Upload Graphics

I can't seem to be able to upload any files. I keep trying to upload the electoral symbol of the Communist Party of Constantinopolis, and I get the error: Could not copy file "/tmp/phpokoP44" to "/home/sc434/ns/wiki/images/c/c4/Communist_Party_of_Constantinopolis.gif". -- Constantinopolis 14:56, 15 Oct 2004 (GMT)

Uploads ought to work - I'll look into it when I get home. Possibly a naming problem? --Goobergunch|? 17:57, 15 Oct 2004 (GMT)

Okay, it's a PHP safe mode problem, which I can do very little about. I'd have to get Servage to fix it, which might not be that easy. --Goobergunch|? 19:57, 18 Oct 2004 (GMT)

One is able to place a picture -which is hosted from another web site- on an article, simply by putting it's address, like so (go to edit to see how I have done this if you do not know):

I belive this to be sufficient until the upload dilemma is resolved. Rechze 12:39, 31 Oct 2004 (GMT)

Depending upon your PHP configuration, version and whether it's loaded as a CGI program/Apache module, you may be able to disable local safe mode by adding "php_value safe_mode Off" to your .htaccess file. I was unable to get it to work on my own webserver, but it is said to work elsewhere. --The Mindset 12:54, 26 Nov 2004 (GMT)

Okay, I double checked my sources and it turns out this was a bug in an old version of PHP, so probably won't be able to help you. --The Mindset 20:06, 27 Nov 2004 (GMT)